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Old 05-02-2012, 12:54 PM
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If the alt was incapable of clearing the camp, that makes your case even harder to make.

You took a risk and got burned. That's the price of taking a risk sometimes.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:06 PM
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Can someone else ninja that mob whilst I am logging my alt in after I killed it
This isn't about holding or losing a camp, people. He's asking if someone can LOOT the mob he just killed while he's getting on his alt to loot it. A similar situation would be killing the Ancient Cyclops then logging to your level 1 or whatever alt to loot the ring, when someone trudges along and loots your ring.

At first glance, this IS ninja looting. But. Other factors come into play... how long did your switch on characters take? If the corpse only had/has a few seconds left, and you're not around, you can't blame the looter; he just saved a rot. But if you're saying you did make the switch before that, and the person still spam clicked and beat you to loot the moment the 5minute timer opened up... then that person is an a-hole and you've just been ninja'd.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:07 PM
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Nothings happened yet but I am in control of a camp that this guy wants for his alt, which he's logged onto now and is waiting for some reason even after I said I'll be here for many hours, probably. I just wanted to know where I stood if he just decided to loot my drop for my alt. My alt is nearby, literally will take less than a minute after kill to be on the mob waiting to loot. Obvioulsy i will have to wait for the loot timer but then so will they. Just interested to know if I have any right to my own kill loot.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:14 PM
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This isn't about holding or losing a camp, people. He's asking if someone can LOOT the mob he just killed while he's getting on his alt to loot it. A similar situation would be killing the Ancient Cyclops then logging to your level 1 or whatever alt to loot the ring, when someone trudges along and loots your ring.
A level one cannot kill the Ancient Cyclops therefore negating the alt's claim to the loot.

To me this is no different than dropping gear for an alt on the ground while you quickly log the alt to retrieve it.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:15 PM
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wow and you'd be ok with taking someone drops like that?
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:17 PM
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Would I do it? No.

But there's a difference between ethical behavior and rule breaking behavior.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:23 PM
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but you feel that if someone wants to camp something for an alt that could not kill the mob themselves and you knew this, you would loot it, knowing there was no rule breaking involved if you wanted the item for urself or your alt?
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:24 PM
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*Sigh*

There's some sort of communication barrier here.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:30 PM
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When you kill a mob you own the loot rights to that mob.

There is established precedence here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...19&postcount=1

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Originally Posted by Rogean
Ninja looting is not a raid dispute. It is an individual basis. If a mob is killed in a non-disputable zone, the group (and thus raid/guild) that is merited the kill has rights to the loot. If they don't grant you permission to loot the corpse, you are violating an individual server rule by ninja looting.
Technically, if you kill an orc and run off a newbie looting that rusty axe is stealing your loot. That said, no one ever goes after the newbie. Because you ran away, you are likely ratifying his actions implicitly.

I would suggest you leave clear and documented instructions to the guy hovering around you that you will be logging to your alt and that under no circumstances do you cede the rights to your kill.

The only counter argument to Rogean's post that I see is that his post was in reference to a VP dragon kill. That said, he has clearly indicated this is an individual and not a raid level dispute.

TLDR: You kill it, you own it. If you told the guy to stay away, that additional evidence is unrequired, but helpful to your case.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:31 PM
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but you feel that if someone wants to camp something for an alt that could not kill the mob themselves and you knew this, you would loot it, knowing there was no rule breaking involved if you wanted the item for urself or your alt?
this guy is clearly is a retardo

Bottom line if you kill something and log off its fair game for whoever wants or comes by and loots said item
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