Rangers

[webrunner5]

One nice thing about Rangers here is that there is some really cheap gear and weapons for them. A big plus on here. Like it has been said the 40% XP penality sucks but all Hybrids have it and some even more.

It is a great solo class. With the Swarmcaller you can slow like a Shaman. If you use 2handers from 20 to 50 you can cast damage spells even heal spells on yourself between swings. Doing a lot of damage.

It is not a easy road to go, but with the Tracking and some pretty good spells they get, Harmony, Thornes, SoW, etc and good DPS they are a lot of fun I think.

[Heavydrop]

Originally Posted by Egil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Corrodith]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is completely wrong. A properly geared ranger leveling up will out-dps everything but a fairly twinked rogue or similarly geared monk.

Don't spread lies! This is just not true, as much as you might want it to be. This is coming from one of the best geared rangers on the server. I've parsed myself vs. other classes in pickup groups plenty while leveling up. The worst geared rogue or monk will out-dps the best geared ranger almost every time. You might be able to come close pre-50 if you're massively overgeared, but it just comes down to having lower weapon skills.

[Scavrefamn]

Originally Posted by Corrodith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't spread lies! This is just not true, as much as you might want it to be. This is coming from one of the best geared rangers on the server. I've parsed myself vs. other classes in pickup groups plenty while leveling up. The worst geared rogue or monk will out-dps the best geared ranger almost every time. You might be able to come close pre-50 if you're massively overgeared, but it just comes down to having lower weapon skills.

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[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Corrodith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't spread lies! This is just not true, as much as you might want it to be. This is coming from one of the best geared rangers on the server. I've parsed myself vs. other classes in pickup groups plenty while leveling up. The worst geared rogue or monk will out-dps the best geared ranger almost every time. You might be able to come close pre-50 if you're massively overgeared, but it just comes down to having lower weapon skills.

You're overstating the differences. If you're rocking a Woodsman's Staff + FBSS + smart gear choices and the occasional nuke between swings "the worst geared monk" is going to fall behind in the lower levels. I'm not spreading lies and I'm not deluding myself into thinking rangers will out-dps a geared rogue or a superior-geared monk. Perhaps I should have bolded the part where I said 'leveling', and not 50+, where the difference probably becomes more pronounced.

Something tells me your experience as a ranger was so unenjoyable because you were doing something wrong, like dual wielding or wearing tolans when you're not taking damage for a group. I've found my experience to be quite enjoyable, and my dps competitive.

[Phased]

Lots of angry rangers here. They can't tank as well as tanks, they can't do as much damage as the DPS classes.

Yet, these threads should all end with the common response:

Good players > bad players, regardless of class.

[Cecily]

Rangers are hands down my favorite class to group to with on my rogue. Tank / Healer/ Haste & Slow / DPS / DPS/ DPS makes an ideal melee party. With that setup, mobs die fast and it really doesn't matter what the DPS classes are (as long as I'm one). Might as well have a ranger along for utility. And oh my god, I can't wait for call of the predator.

What a player can do by themselves is largely insignificant. It's the synergy of different talents that matters in Everquest.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is completely wrong. A properly geared ranger leveling up will out-dps everything but a fairly twinked rogue or similarly geared monk. And with that they will bring root parking, reliable agro, and decent tanking. I carry both a STR set and an ac/hp set for when I need to take hits, which is almost always because nobody plays a tank... but that's an issue for another thread.

It's easier to utilize your class to the best of its ability if you play a rogue or monk. They are both better dps later on. But it's profoundly fucking ignorant to say that makes rangers useless, or even undesirable, particularly when leveling.

But like he said, there's a ton of threads about this if you use the search function. I think the conclusion is that rangers have their flaws, but if properly played, can be an incredible contribution to a group. Just remember you have spells, and use them. There's too many rangers that never throw a downtime heal, or a root/snare. Such a waste.

Plus I find monks and rogues really boring.

Most rangers don't outdps warriors, of course there are exceptions in any case. Rangers are excellent though, very useful class when played by a somewhat competent player.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most rangers don't outdps warriors, of course there are exceptions in any case. Rangers are excellent though, very useful class when played by a somewhat competent player.

Huh??? seriously?

I parse every fight I'm in and I can't remember the last time a warrior out dps'd me...
Last time we did Gorenaire, Internode and I were 1 & 2 in dps for the fight, that's over monks, rogues, warriors etc.

[maahes]

Originally Posted by Muchew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think its more of the comparison of what they become post-velious, they are horrible. Finally had a ranged dps that doesn't depend on mana/mob resist.

In classic though,they do fine dps and can pull well outdoors.

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