What happened to this server?

[Autotune]

PvP players happened.

[bakkily]

one thing about guild wars 2, fuck it, doesnt really look good to me, though im going to try out terra, but then many of you are going to say what i said about gw2, but d3 looks damn good

but the servers doing fine over all, though often enough i run into boxers here or there

[Slave]

Originally Posted by bakkily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

d3 looks damn good

Do you think so? That's really going out on a limb.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Casual players: left because the grind took way too long. It was okay in the beginning but as the population trickled down, having no one to play with in a group-oriented game had a domino effect.

Hardcore players: essentially unintentionally griefed themselves and everyone else at the high end off with the stupid arms race that occurred 40+. Guild A with 6 lost to Guild B with 10, so Guild A recruited 10 more. Guild B with 10 lost to Guild A with 16, so Guild B recruited 10 more, and so on. This meant both guilds were forced to play with shitty people they didn't like. It also meant that eventually one guild had a huge numbers advantage over the other and there was no one else left to recruit, resulting in the death of meaningful PvP.

If people were intelligent and kept things lean and evenly splintered among numerous rival guilds, the server could have been made fun and enjoyable for everyone. But intelligence isn't a common quality found among PvP players unfortunately.

Best post I've seen in a long time on these forums.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Casual players: left because the grind took way too long. It was okay in the beginning but as the population trickled down, having no one to play with in a group-oriented game had a domino effect.

Hardcore players: essentially unintentionally griefed themselves and everyone else at the high end off with the stupid arms race that occurred 40+. Guild A with 6 lost to Guild B with 10, so Guild A recruited 10 more. Guild B with 10 lost to Guild A with 16, so Guild B recruited 10 more, and so on. This meant both guilds were forced to play with shitty people they didn't like. It also meant that eventually one guild had a huge numbers advantage over the other and there was no one else left to recruit, resulting in the death of meaningful PvP.

If people were intelligent and kept things lean and evenly splintered among numerous rival guilds, the server could have been made fun and enjoyable for everyone. But intelligence isn't a common quality found among PvP players unfortunately.

Reiker was only one who really hit the nail on the head in this thread

[oldfish]

We all have our take on why the server isnt doing as good population wise as wed like to.

Mine is that pvp xp loss should have been kept to zones like Lguk and fear.

XP loss fostered a zergish "If you got overwhelming numbers, crush, if you are undernumbered, run" environment.

No xp bonus and the long grind, coupled with that it was hard to take a break from the grind to pvp all day since all you would have done is set you back in the grind if you werent in a zerg guild like holo, is what i think reduced numbers in the first months. It was just like a blue server (meaning that people didnt pvp because of xp loss) except once in a while youd get run over and ganked by a zergsquad and add more grind on the pile. Lulz for people like holo but byebye to small crews of friends.

Now that im at the top, things are better, but it took a long time for me to start seeing people pvping on the regular.

People just raced to the top cuz pvp wasnt happening and was wondering where the content was after a month when the content should have been the incessant pvping.

Hopefully people get bored of epics and repopulate red a bit now that the xp bonus is in effect

[Vile]

Fast XP.. loots more rare (but not Searyx rare) = winbox.com

[Flash]

I played this server the first day it launched. After a couple days I got fed up with the lack of town safety and quit.

The server was loaded with players then.

[bakkily]

absolutely true skorge! but i came to red because i enjoy pvp, good combat v.s enemy guilds...ect, but also most peeps are at blue because for one the servers been out for awhile, and someone new can get free gear, help ect, or they work hard on their char and join a guild by the time they're lvl 20 and recieve help

on red, its a bit diffrent because its still a new server, durring christmas break, i got 3 weeks off from work, and grinded the shit out of lvls 6-19 solo, sometimes i found groups, but for the most part ive been doing all my lvling solo, and thats the other problem on our server, ive seen enough mages, necros, shamans (reason i play this class because i enjoy it the most), bards, pretty much i see most of the server playing solo classes, then tanks, rogs ect, though when kunark comes out, itll even out the server, because for one way better gear, and two better spots to xp at, but the biggest thing this server needs to show, is kindness to the newcomers

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Flash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played this server the first day it launched. After a couple days I got fed up with the lack of town safety and quit.

Personally I think this is what lost red the largest number of players. Nothing can be done to bring anyone back imho.

Except...and this isn't a troll.

1. Start over. Put all the fixes in a huge post (guard assist, exploits fixed, yadda-yadda).

2. Put in global OOC.

3. Get some more damn volunteers to moderate both the forums and the game.

4. Implement at least 10X xp for the first two weeks.