Preparations

[Jon Lemon]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like, hunting and fishing style? 100% off the grid eh? Do you have tools for determining safe water supplies? Would you take any tech with you? If so, what?

i've got enough iodine to get put away for attempted meth manufacture with the new fascist drug laws going into effect in some areas, and plenty of filters. I've also got some pretty remote property with an alpine water supply that you could prolly drink straight up without getting ill. Enough guns to run a little militia.

As it currently is it'd be trivial to survive on fishing and hunting in southern Utah, the population density is just comically low and the land rich. In a shit hits the fan type situation that might change, but I suspect the Morms would remain organized enough to keep population density low by force. Winter could get a bit difficult.

The real problem would be getting my people past the Mormon roadblocks to get in - the state has just a few choked points of entry and some brutal natural barriers. Those fucks would turn authoritarian real quick without federal authority to keep them in check. And I wouldn't recommend nonwhites take refuge there after the race war.

No tech or entertainment needed beyond guns and optics, this shit makes a great vacation as things are already.

[Harrison]

I'd immediately get out of Southeastern Mass, bringing my family with me. I'd immediately head to the Appalachians, taking advantage of our experience that most city folk lack entirely.

Most people here have never even SEEN a mountain, nevermind climbed them.

[Jon Lemon]

Appalachia seems a little risky to me, there are a *lot* of hill people as it is. It's urban wilderness.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Jon Lemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i've got enough iodine to get put away for attempted meth manufacture with the new fascist drug laws going into effect in some areas, and plenty of filters. I've also got some pretty remote property with an alpine water supply that you could prolly drink straight up without getting ill. Enough guns to run a little militia.

As it currently is it'd be trivial to survive on fishing and hunting in southern Utah, the population density is just comically low and the land rich. In a shit hits the fan type situation that might change, but I suspect the Morms would remain organized enough to keep population density low by force. Winter could get a bit difficult.

The real problem would be getting my people past the Mormon roadblocks to get in - the state has just a few choked points of entry and some brutal natural barriers. Those fucks would turn authoritarian real quick without federal authority to keep them in check. And I wouldn't recommend nonwhites take refuge there after the race war.

No tech or entertainment needed beyond guns and optics, this shit makes a great vacation as things are already.

This is exactly the type of response I'm looking for.

RE: bolded: Mexico starts to look a bit more attractive eh? All the jokes about the fence being used against us don't seem so funny in this situation.

[Uthgaard]

Water from a natural source isn't always safe. If it exists in nature, something has already found a way to live there. You might think hot springs around yellowstone would be pretty ideal since that essentially boils your water for you. But then you get introduced to the minor celebrity prokaryote thermus aquaticus.

I posted a quick rundown of water purification a while back in a previous exposé of HBB thread 2pidity. (It seems to be a regular occurence)

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aside from this, water purification is simple and accessible to anyone. A fully effective water filter can be made from bituminous and anthracite coal, sand, plastic, garnet and gravel. Same accessible stuff that's in military water filters. Chlorine and citric acid will neutralize any microbes and the pH. Reverse osmosis is the only part that might seem a little tricky, but guess what? A $50 pool filter has the same RO element and the pump.

You can get water from anywhere. Ponds and lakes are surface representations of the water table (that's how far down you have to go to get water). If you're 25 miles from water, you can take a topographic map, find the water gradient from the difference in elevation between the nearest pools, dig about that far down. As long as it doesn't smell like sulfur, you've got a well. If it does, move about 10 yards and try again.

Simple stuff. Now no one from p99 should ever die of thirst.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Jon Lemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Appalachia seems a little risky to me, there are a *lot* of hill people as it is. It's urban wilderness.

Not the Virginia/mid-southern stretch where those are. Border of NH/MA/ME depending on various factors of course.

I've thought of staying near a coast line, too. (10ish miles inland, to move in and out at will for the summer. Nothing beats the plentiful food pulled from the ocean.)

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Jon Lemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

go to wilderness

better off fighting nature than 100,000 hungry ******s who stopped receiving foodstamps after government shutdown

haha WOW nice one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jon Lemon]

Your water advice is a little further to the permanent side than I'd be comfortable with in this situation. It's all well and good if you have a permanent encampment, but you need to be prepared to carry what you need on your person for this situation.

Iodine is gr8 choice, a kilo of it goes a long way. If you had a scientific professional [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] available it wouldn't be difficult to attenuate the local flora with iodine & develop a vaccine that should render the area water supply fairly safe to drink if the situation was starting to look more desperate. That'll have to wait til after my hilltop cult gets the first round of inductees though, fuck knows I'm not testing on myself.

[jarshale]

Hopefully I would be smart enough to move to the philipines before this all goes down, where my family owns a good bit of land

[burkemi5]

occupy fallout