Game Mechanics: Summon interval (Howling Stones / all world)

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll save you some time and say now that even if you did find proof that it was 11, it's unlikely I would change it. As we get closer to velious and mobs that will be permarooted, the tactic of summon kiting will be utilized, and increasing the duration would trivialize many encounters. Even without permaroot it would still be an issue for many encounters.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll save you some time and say now that even if you did find proof that it was 11, it's unlikely I would change it. As we get closer to velious and mobs that will be permarooted

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As we get closer to velious.

[Odonk]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll save you some time and say now that even if you did find proof that it was 11, it's unlikely I would change it. As we get closer to velious and mobs that will be permarooted, the tactic of summon kiting will be utilized, and increasing the duration would trivialize many encounters. Even without permaroot it would still be an issue for many encounters.

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Mostly Classic Everquest

[Uthgaard]

Except that the 6 second implementation is correct.

Originally Posted by Odonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Mostly Classic Everquest

Mostly fail statement.

[Rais]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll save you some time and say now that even if you did find proof that it was 11, it's unlikely I would change it. As we get closer to velious and mobs that will be permarooted, the tactic of summon kiting will be utilized, and increasing the duration would trivialize many encounters. Even without permaroot it would still be an issue for many encounters.

You maybe thinking of Shadows of Luclin. The only mob that ended up being rooted in Velious was Vulak`Aerr and that was months after the expansion went live when they made him into a "spawnable" dragon.

Tormax, AoW+spawn cycle, Dain, Sleeper Tombs Guardians, Djokojjonmnasaijai whateverhis name was, every other dragon in ToV weren't rooted.

Shadow's of Luclin Ssra temple Snake mini bosses, and even Seru were perma rooted at the start of the expansion, but it was removed since they wouldn't summon at all. I think they re-enabled them being rooted but not 100%.

[Uthgaard]

Those tactics are valid in a 6 second interval. I used to do it, that's how I know that the 6 second interval is correct without needing to look it up. The inaccurate portion is the assumption that everyone and their brother should be able to do it effortlessly, with their mouths hanging open and mashing random buttons.

It's hard to do, and not everyone will be able to get the gear to make it possible, and have the reaction time or know all of the tricks necessary to make it work.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those tactics are valid in a 6 second interval. I used to do it, that's how I know that the 6 second interval is correct without needing to look it up. The inaccurate portion is the assumption that everyone and their brother should be able to do it effortlessly, with their mouths hanging open and mashing random buttons.

It's hard to do, and not everyone will be able to get the gear to make it possible, and have the reaction time or know all of the tricks necessary to make it work.

actually the mob speed and hit boxes along with a 6sec summon is why it's not practical on p99.

It's possible that It can be done (look at the learning curve of kiting bards). However, from a necro standpoint, it is more trouble than it's worth trying to use any of those tactics with a summoning mob. It would be more efficient to use a different tactic rather than trying to yoyo a summoning mob on p99.

[Reikerx]

Yeah I can't remember any Velious mobs being perma-rooted either.

[DoucLangur]

Originally Posted by Reikerx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I can't remember any Velious mobs being perma-rooted either.

Oh there were a couple of dragons in NToV - and WToV... and I believe even one or two dragons in western wastes?

Also - Tunare in PoGrowth?

[Rais]

Nope everythig was pulled,or we moved into position and then pulled. We even pulled tunare to the wall so the knock back didn't wipe the raid.

You can even find videos of NTOV of every dragon training around on the inside due to vulak had to be killed last.

Nothing of major raid status was rooted in velious. I don't even recall anything at all that was.

[DoucLangur]

Your information may be correct for original velious. Around the time that I raided NToV (PoP/LDoN era), the mobs I mentioned were rooted.