Macroquest

[Uaellaen]

Just don't "forget" to exit the program.

before you start EQ, since it will inject it self into EQ and is probably even traceable when deactivated after it injected it self ...

[Nedala]

or btter just dont use lame-ass programs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[dannym3141]

I don't understand all the nerdraging here. I clearly said that it's approved on other servers and is used to box multiple characters. I'm clearly trying to make sure i don't break any rules on p99. Why would i get assaulted for trying to make sure i don't break the rules?

Rogean, can i trouble you for another reply in which you give me a clearer answer please? I understand that using mq2 on p99 is banned and i agree with that, i wouldn't use it. I'm asking if (and then how) i can use it on a server where it isn't banned without it affecting me on p99. You say "having it loaded" will inject itself - so as long as i do not open it any time i play on p99, that's fine? Or are you saying it injects itself like a virus and if i run it even once, it will forever infect my installation of eq? And if so, does that mean i need separate installs?

Bear in mind that i'm TRYING to make sure i don't break any rules and keep p99 legit and secure, why wouldn't you want to help me do that? /boggle.

Edit:
Sorry to sound ungrateful to all the good replies - thanks for those. Rest assured i am a computer nerd, i have no intention of using it for evil, i would never "forget" or forget to close it, it's not an evil evil program - it can just be used to cheat on project 99. And i'm trying to avoid that. Just because paedophiles can use computers to look at paedophilic material doesn't mean that computers are evil, boys.

Rogean - i'm trying not to break the rules, please help

[Crone]

Yes, but akin to your analogy..

This is like a pedophile getting close to a little kid and then not knowing what to do...

You know just enough to know how to use MQ, but clearly you don't know a damn thing about how it works or what it does to your EQ client/computer. This is why you are getting flamed, and personally I agree with them. If you have no idea how the program works, or what it does, why are you using it?

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll inject your face

Hello, new signature!

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Crone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have no idea how the program works, or what it does, why are you using it?

You use things everyday that you don't know how they work. This is a ridiculous statement. There is a difference between knowing how to work something and knowing how something works...

I used macroquest a few times on live towards the end when I really just didn't care (mostly mayong server, since let's be honestly, that server was a joke)... I have no idea how the program works, and honestly probably only know how to use it to 1/10th of it's capacity.. but that doesn't mean it didn't make my life way easier and enable me to do things that I wouldn't have been able to do as efficiently without it.

As far as all the people hating on this guy, simmer down. The guy should be commended for going through the trouble of educating himself so as to follow the rules of P99. I bet 1/2 of the people on P99 have either used, or knowingly benefited from someone using MQ... hell there are people in this thread that fit that bill. Personally, I've got no problem with MQ as long as it's not being used on P99, and props to you Danny for taking the effort to make sure you're following the rules.

My advice would be to just ensure MQ isn't running prior to launching EQ. I'm pretty sure MQ would need to be actively running for it to be detected; although you might wanna wait for Rogean to reply as he'd surely have the definitive answer.

[dannym3141]

I'm trying to avoid getting dragged into flaming because this will just end up in rants and flames and i am asking a genuine question to make sure i don't break the rules.

I'd just like to say that you don't know how ANYTHING works until you use it. In fact, that's even what EQ emulation was born from! They didn't know exactly how to do it, but they got their hands dirty, and lo and behold years later we have this excellent (sometimes) community with an almost clone copy of the original classic live everquest! Fantastic!

I'm only glad that the scientific and engineering geniuses of the past didn't heed your theory that if you don't know how something works you shouldn't use it or even try. I don't know how the universe works, but i'm going to go and study it next year. I'll reconsider that now, thanks to your advice.

Thank you very much for the last reply. These people are either desperately trolling or several bricks short of a house.

All that's needed now is an answer from rogean or another suitable character to let me know how i can securely enjoy ALL aspects of eqemu.org's server collective without breaking any rules. I have heard that as long as i DO NOT have mq2 running when i open my titanium client and connect to p99, and DO NOT open mq whilst that client and connection is open, i will not be breaking any rules and will not be banned.

Correct?

[Bones]

Once you go p1999 you don't go back. So the question is irrelevant... delete MQ completely and do a fresh install, profit.

[Uaellaen]

You say "having it loaded" will inject itself - so as long as i do not open it any time i play on p99, that's fine?

yes, just make sure that you do not open it at all. If you had it open while playing on another server, you will have to close and restart your EQ completly, so the injection is also gone.

Or are you saying it injects itself like a virus and if i run it even once, it will forever infect my installation of eq? And if so, does that mean i need separate installs?

No. Ok. When you open a program, most of it will be loaded into your RAM. What Macroquest does is, rewrite part of the program in the RAM (in this case EQ). So once you used it on Everquest while its open, the client is altered, and to revert it back to its original state, you will have to close EQ completly (so its gone from your RAM) and restart it (it will be loaded up to you RAM with the original files again) without having macroquest up to make sure it doesnt inject it self to EQ.

Now i hope that wasnt too complicated [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. Im not a fan of software like this, but i guess since its allowed on some EMU servers to fool arround with it, i figured i'll help ya.

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[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You use things everyday that you don't know how they work. This is a ridiculous statement. There is a difference between knowing how to work something and knowing how something works..

True the fuck out of that!! You (hopefully) use soap every day, but do any of you know the first thing about bubble science? It's a hugely complex discipline, which requires a solid understanding of physics, chemistry, and mathematics to even begin to comprehend the basics.

One of my favorite sayings, from some comedian (paraphrased):

I'll drop you off alone in the jungle with a knife, and see how long it takes you to send me an email.