Enchanter CHA

[Yinikren]

I charm kite with ~ 145 cha, buffed, more would be a waste. CHA slightly affects the initial chance of resistance for mez and charm spells. It does not affect the duration of charm once it actually lands.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I charm kite with ~ 145 cha, buffed, more would be a waste. CHA slightly affects the initial chance of resistance for mez and charm spells. It does not affect the duration of charm once it actually lands.

Yes it does

[Werlop]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes it does

It has some impact on duration; it's mostly noticeable when you try to charm things at or above your level (which is pretty rare). Otherwise, level and the mob's MR are much more significant.
It also has a massive impact on whether or not the spell lands. With around or over 200 cha, charm is simply NEVER resisted but a mob that is not immune to magic. It's actually a reliable way of crowd controlling certain mobs that are difficult to mez.

The chance for mez to land is supposed to be heavily impacted by cha. I have not confirmed that it is on p99.

Lull is massively affected by cha. If you are naked, lull will have a critical fail (gain aggro) pretty often. With 200+ cha, it almost never does. At level 55+, I was able to use lull to split fairly large exp camps and usually I'd average 1 critical fail every few hours, which comes out to 1 over several hundred casts.

[Rilen]

I stopped using cha gear to charm after the nerf. I just buff and use my normal set up, which is around 190ish cha anyways I guess. Either way before 190 would mean terrible charms in the 50-60 scope of things, now it doesn't seem to make a difference that I can tell.

It does however seriously affect calm, with 255cha you can basically go anywhere you want uninhibited as an ench.

I think it should have a more noticeable affect across the board, but meh. As is it's mostly worthless and would recommend probably getting cha where you can (on items with int/mana/hp) and not worry about it otherwise. Probably 160ish would be enough to charm and do your business to 50.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CHA slightly affects the initial chance of resistance for mez

I've killed 222 35-39 mobs with my 44-46 enchanter (236 charisma) in the last 24 hours. Every pull starts with me using the level 4 mez on an untashed mob, then tashing it, charming it, and sending him at another mob, that I then root, and then tash.

I have not had a single mez resist, but I've had 19 root resists.

Either mez is harder to resist than average, root is easier to resist than average, charisma affects mez resist chance SIGNIFICANTLY, or my results are ridiculously unlucky.

My bet is on charisma SIGNIFICANTLY reducing the chance of a mez resisting.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've killed 222 35-39 mobs with my 44-46 enchanter (236 charisma) in the last 24 hours. Every pull starts with me using the level 4 mez on an untashed mob, then tashing it, charming it, and sending him at another mob, that I then root, and then tash.

I have not had a single mez resist, but I've had 19 root resists.

Either mez is harder to resist than average, root is easier to resist than average, charisma affects mez resist chance SIGNIFICANTLY, or my results are ridiculously unlucky.

My bet is on charisma SIGNIFICANTLY reducing the chance of a mez resisting.

222 mobs? Thats 1 every 6 minutes for 24 hours. Get some sun.

After that, it should be easy to do a mez resist test. L4 mez is like 20 mana or something, just cast it 100 times with 255, 200, and 100 charisma and we'll see what's up. The other possibility is that root is just a bit more resisty.

[HawkMasterson1999]

Often times when charm decides to break over and over again I discover that my cha buff has dropped without me noticing. I rebuff cha and the charm sticks for near full duration once again. So I would say yes, charisma does effect charm duration. I don't run out of mana anyway so I don't worry my int too much.

[Vermicelli]

Originally Posted by HawkMasterson1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Often times when charm decides to break over and over again I discover that my cha buff has dropped without me noticing. I rebuff cha and the charm sticks for near full duration once again.

QFT

When you are controlling a mob with charm, the mob will make a check every tick based on three things: your level vs theirs (the most influential check), your charisma, and the mob's magic resist. If the mob clears all three checks, your charm will break. So you can ensure that your charms stick for a long time by bumping your CHA and Tashing the mob. If you are in group with a L51 Mage or L49 Shaman, ask them to cast Malo on your pet before you charm it, as the Malo line can further decrease your pet's Magic Resist.

Also, if you are doing your job keeping all the mobs locked down and slowed and all your mates buffed, chances are you won't have time to regenerate to full mana, so don't worry about that max mana pool too much [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vondra]

I think in the end, the fact that CHA has any effect on your performance...even if it is minor, makes it better than INT most of the time in groups where raising your max mana really isn't of any use.

Now I'm not recommending that you just totally ignore int and truly have a tiny mana pool...but if you've got 160 INT or something, that's more than enough.

[bigups43]

Ok thanks for the info. Can anyone recommend some low level CHA gear?