Etiquette of rolling on item you already have?

[Akim]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Greed everything, it's the only fair way.

[Wotsirb401]

Alpha on gems, make sure you know the selling value of each gem so you arent giving one guy a gem that sells for 36pp and another guy a blue diamond or something stupid.

Obviously if this is a guild group or group of friends use NBG

PUG should always be Greed, if someone has a heiro cloak and another one drops and they happen to win the roll. Give them the amount of time on the corpse to get a guildie or friend down to crypt or wherever you are to hold the 2nd one. If they are unable to accomplish this.. give to 2nd highest roll.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Mostly agree with previous post.. alpha on gems or items that are gonna npc for a significant amount of plat.

But if its an item not worth a fortune.. but still a bit valuable.. i can see giving to a person in need.

I also see the point of a fungi tunic being free rolled for everybody..

I guess im somewhere inbetween the NBG and FFA argument... guess it just depends on how rare / valuable / sellable an item is...

like i think it would be pretty douchey to loot a no trade item just to sell a MQ

[Vondra]

In general if you're in Sebilis or something, you can expect everyone in the group to /rand on every thing of value that drops. If they win something, they'll still continue rolling too. If you join a group and no loot rules are discussed, you can expect that this is the way it's going to go down.


Sometimes groups will agree that once someone wins something of value, they stop rolling until the others get stuff, this is fine too. It isn't expected though and if you want that system, say so early on. People are usually fine with it though.

At any rate, NBG is basically dead in PuGs (on anything of much real value, anyway).

[MrSparkle001]

Yep, refer to my sig.

[mwatt]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NBG is bullshit on items that are worth 50k. people exploit the shit out of that. They bank it or won't use it anyway, claim need on it, and then you see them auction that shit in the EC Tunnels an hour later. Greed everything, it's the only fair way.

Sure you get the occasional doosh who sometimes gets caught, sometimes doesn't. On the other hand you frequently end up with people who can't even use an item getting it and someone for whom it is important their class, possibly even class-defining (e.g. some spells) NOT getting it. I would call that unfair as well... in fact you are actually LEGISLATING unfairness with your policy because it is actually guaranteed to happen and going to happen more often than the dooshy one. Unless todays gamers are in general more dooshy than gamers of yesteryear, which I suppose could be argued.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure you get the occasional doosh who sometimes gets caught, sometimes doesn't. On the other hand you frequently end up with people who can't even use an item getting it and someone for whom it is important their class, possibly even class-defining (e.g. some spells) NOT getting it. I would call that unfair as well...

How is it not fair? You have a square shot at anything that drops, and you can sell it. That's as fair as it gets. Then you can buy your class defining spell / item or trade for it with someone else's. Restricting the flow of wealth based on what class you are and what drops at the camp you're at, or being forced to trust people who you don't know to be honest about telling they actually need is not fair.

[Diggles]

I need the plat!

[Splorf22]

The reality is everyone needs 50k+. Either you can use the item directly, you can buy something awesome with it, or you can make a twink, or whatever. Generally speaking my threshold at 60 is 5-10k for need, which covers really 99% of the items in the game.

My biggest problem with Kunark is how Verant decided to make 3-4 items (NoS, Fungi, Hiero Cloak) that were best in slot for literally everyone and put them on rare-drop rare-spawn mobs.

[Diggles]

Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I need the plat!