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Old 11-06-2011, 09:29 AM
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I don't know, depicting the moon via painting it as if it's a flying vessel with someone inside it?
Yeah but you're still interpreting it as someone from 2011 though. Why would the artist paint people inside flying machines? Flying machines were not exactly a widespread idea until very recently, so what purpose would that serve to paint it, especially in a church? It's like the ancient aliens guy seeing a flower carving in an Egyptian tomb and interpreting it as a lightbulb.

Older pagan religions had deities for everything, and those things were depicted in human form. Obviously Christians didn't see it that way, but part of Christianity's success was that they didn't just throw out old beliefs. They incorporated them but gave them new names and direction. Ex. that ritual you do in the spring time to celebrate a season of renewal and rebirth, and to promote the upcoming harvest? Yeah keep doing that, but also throw in the part about this other guy who was resurrected in the spring, and come do it at the church also. Sup followers of Mithras, one of the largest religions in Rome. What a coincidence, your dude was born at the end of December too? He died for your sins too? You have eucharist-like ritual as well? Fuck yeah, come on over.

tl;dr: pagan personification combined with Christian imagery, or aliens. You decide.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:04 PM
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I dunno I see blobs of tiny paint, not "metal".



That being said, it's not like I'd discount the possibility of UFOs and/or alien life. It's fairly plausible compared to some of the other shit people buy into (OMGOMG BUILD FALLOUT SHELTERS FOR 2012 JUDGEMENT DAY)
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:05 PM
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I've always been kind of fascinated about the Nuremberg event back in 1561:

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The main reason is because, unlike those paintings that have nothing to do with UFO's supposedly featuring them, in this woodcut the artist is actually attempting to show what hundreds of people witnessed.

(And yes, it looks like a really bad acid trip, but if mass ergot poisoning is the only explanation detractors can give then I ask you how a drug/poison can give the same exact delusion to countless people all over a city.)
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Old 11-04-2011, 04:42 PM
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I've always been kind of fascinated about the Nuremberg event back in 1561:

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The main reason is because, unlike those paintings that have nothing to do with UFO's supposedly featuring them, in this woodcut the artist is actually attempting to show what hundreds of people witnessed.

(And yes, it looks like a really bad acid trip, but if mass ergot poisoning is the only explanation detractors can give then I ask you how a drug/poison can give the same exact delusion to countless people all over a city.)
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A sun dog or sundog (scientific name parhelion, plural parhelia, from Greek parēlion (παρήλιον) from παρά (beside) + ἥλιος (sun), "beside the sun"; also called a mock sun or a phantom sun) is an atmospheric phenomenon that creates bright spots of light in the sky, often on a luminous ring or halo on either side of the sun. Sundogs may appear as a colored patch of light to the left or right of the sun, 22° distant and at the same distance above the horizon as the sun, and in ice halos. They can be seen anywhere in the world during any season, but they are not always obvious or bright. Sundogs are best seen and are most conspicuous when the sun is low. Sun dogs might explain a remarkable phenomenon observed in Germany: on April 4, 1561, the skies over Nuremberg, Germany were filled with a multitude of celestial objects that were observed by many people in the city.
Also I find it funny that Wehrmacht's image contradicts itself: claiming that VV Cephei and VY Canis Majoris are both the largest known star (panels 17 and 19). They're very close and it's difficult to get an accurate measurement (VY Canis Majoris is generally considered larger, once thought to be larger than physically possible but has been "sized down"), so no big deal. But kinda lulz.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:06 AM
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:59 AM
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Interesting posts. Love this kind of stuff. Just read Sagan's Billions and Billions = hard to fathom. Then people get into other dimensions and...mind = fubar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U
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Old 11-07-2011, 02:08 AM
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I've always been kind of fascinated about the Nuremberg event back in 1561:

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The main reason is because, unlike those paintings that have nothing to do with UFO's supposedly featuring them, in this woodcut the artist is actually attempting to show what hundreds of people witnessed.

(And yes, it looks like a really bad acid trip, but if mass ergot poisoning is the only explanation detractors can give then I ask you how a drug/poison can give the same exact delusion to countless people all over a city.)

One word:

Mushrooms.
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Old 11-08-2011, 10:27 AM
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Mushrooms.
I already said ergot... much more likely than everyone eating the same batch of shrooms.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:12 PM
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i love to think about this stuff. really crazy to think about something so technologically advanced for our time period to be included so long ago in paintings.
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Old 11-04-2011, 04:19 PM
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cool pic Nuke. really cool to imagine the universe in terms of that picture. going by sheer size alone, it is ridiculous to think we are alone.


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