ATTN: Beta testers

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Faction hits happened on all 4 servers.

no.

[Rogean]

People are talking about that like it's going to work how they remember it.. initially it was removed because it was exploitable. We will be putting in guard assist but it will not be faction based. The guards will automatically aggro anyone they see attacking another player regardless and indiscriminately.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are talking about that like it's going to work how they remember it.. initially it was removed because it was exploitable. We will be putting in guard assist but it will not be faction based. The guards will automatically aggro anyone they see attacking another player regardless and indiscriminately.

That will work. What about adding in faction hits for players who kill others in their hometown?

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are talking about that like it's going to work how they remember it.. initially it was removed because it was exploitable. We will be putting in guard assist but it will not be faction based. The guards will automatically aggro anyone they see attacking another player regardless and indiscriminately.

...Even kos guards?

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are talking about that like it's going to work how they remember it.. initially it was removed because it was exploitable. We will be putting in guard assist but it will not be faction based. The guards will automatically aggro anyone they see attacking another player regardless and indiscriminately.

sadface guards should at the very least be racist, a dwarf guard should never attack another dwarf cuz he started shit with an elf, but if the elf started beatin up ol dwarf hes like yo lay off my boy

and in the case 2 non dwarfs fight infront of dwarf guards he jumps in and slays whoever attacking (etc for all cases)

[Mardur]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are talking about that like it's going to work how they remember it.. initially it was removed because it was exploitable. We will be putting in guard assist but it will not be faction based. The guards will automatically aggro anyone they see attacking another player regardless and indiscriminately.

Dumb. The "exploitation" was what made it interesting. And if you didn't want to get "exploited" all you had to do was work on your faction.

The "exploit" made traveling to unfriendly cities very dangerous and was part of the danger that made EQ fun. Don't ruin this.

Some people bitch about resists, level range, ac, etc, but this issue is where I'm making my stand. We need faction hits and faction-based guard aggro.

Consider this: based on what Rogean is saying, a mage soloing Oggok Guards will essentially be immune to pvp as they level as the same guards he's massacring will assist him against human players. This system is broken as hell.

(and yes, most agnostic chars with DE illusion are always dubious to Oggok no matter how many guards they kill)

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are talking about that like it's going to work how they remember it.. initially it was removed because it was exploitable. We will be putting in guard assist but it will not be faction based. The guards will automatically aggro anyone they see attacking another player regardless and indiscriminately.

Originally Posted by Mardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dumb. The "exploitation" was what made it interesting. And if you didn't want to get "exploited" all you had to do was work on your faction.

The "exploit" made traveling to unfriendly cities very dangerous and was part of the danger that made EQ fun. Don't ruin this.

Some people bitch about resists, level range, ac, etc, but this issue is where I'm making my stand. We need faction hits and faction-based guard aggro.

Consider this: based on what Rogean is saying, a mage soloing Oggok Guards will essentially be immune to pvp as they level as the same guards he's massacring will assist him against human players. This system is broken as hell.

(and yes, most agnostic chars with DE illusion are always dubious to Oggok no matter how many guards they kill)

Not sure im getting this straight, does this mean an Ogre can walk into WFP?

[Rust1d?]

First, I am not a coder so I do not know how hard it is to program something like this but it is essential. it is like if I go to a bar and my friend gets into a fight, I am not gonna attack my friend.....

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Rust1d? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First, I am not a coder so I do not know how hard it is to program something like this but it is essential. it is like if I go to a bar and my friend gets into a fight, I am not gonna attack my friend.....

You gotta drink enough...

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Mardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dumb. The "exploitation" was what made it interesting. And if you didn't want to get "exploited" all you had to do was work on your faction.

The "exploit" made traveling to unfriendly cities very dangerous and was part of the danger that made EQ fun. Don't ruin this.

Some people bitch about resists, level range, ac, etc, but this issue is where I'm making my stand. We need faction hits and faction-based guard aggro.

Consider this: based on what Rogean is saying, a mage soloing Oggok Guards will essentially be immune to pvp as they level as the same guards he's massacring will assist him against human players. This system is broken as hell.

(and yes, most agnostic chars with DE illusion are always dubious to Oggok no matter how many guards they kill)

This doesn't really make any sense. If a Mage was soloing Oggok Guards, he wouldn't be immune to PvP. It would actually be the opposite. If he is killing a guard for experience and another player decided they wanted to kill him, that guard is not going to go after the other person because of PvP if he is allready fighting. That Mage is going to have two things beating the shit out of him.

Simple solution -- Don't PvP near guards. If you want to kill guards for experience you inherit the risk of it being Guard/Player vs You.