Loot gathered, guildies cheating

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Oh, and a nice list is found here too of some of the Biggest Dick Moves in online gaming.

[WizardEQ]

Originally Posted by Nivar Quartz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With the recent server wide sweep of these cheaters, in various guilds, I think we should consider revoking ANY god/dragon loots by ANY guilds involved. That's correct I said any GUILDS, if they were under your guild tag you have a responsibility for your members, Trak Teeth GONE, VS, Gor/Tal/Sev/Trak loots gone. If you are serious enough to wager war against each other in game and on the boards, then step up and be responsible enough to take the heat when your members cheat.

I am not the GL of a high-end guild..yet.. but this I agree with. I am considering kicking everyone who cheated in my guild, including 2 officers and all their alts. Am I being too harsh? I'm torn. Is the punishment enough? I don't feel it is. What are you doing being raid gear? I'd like advice from a real leader.

Xaxian of Prodigy

[Obliterator]

Want to know one of the biggest dick moves in online gaming? proposing a punishment like that to be inflicted on many other players, which wouldn't even affect you or your guild, lol

[Mcbard]

Are you assuming that any one guild got off without a cheater?

What you suggest boils down to all god/dragon loot being wiped off the server, because I can almost guarantee that there was at least one person in each guild that has this loot that was caught cheating.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, and a nice list is found here too of some of the Biggest Dick Moves in online gaming.

Goons breaking up BoB was pretty dickish too, lol.

[Aesop]

I'd be more worried about the potential impacts of items like PKT, GBS, Trak Teeth items being over-represented in the population. Even if say one guild benefited it would be hard to prove that person X's exploitation netted guild A enough gear or plat to make themselves competitive that much faster, or knowing which mob had what loot, or rare/random drop on them etc.

Singly each instance of "cheats" doesn't seem like much but in the end could have a huge impact on the competitiveness of a guild. But hard to prove so idk.

[Badmartigan]

an entire guild should not be punished for the misdeeds of a select few....

In the worst cases we have been restricted to competing for mobs for 2 weeks back during the DA suspension days....

To take loot away from members who had nothing to do with cheating just does not make sense.. and has too many ramifications for people that want to set others up like others have wanted.

Navir, we all want these people to suffer more but i dont know that this would be the right answer... raid suspensions dont hurt tho.. and have been done in the past

[Kobias]

IMO, they could have done more to those suspended. But, Rogean and crew was surprisingly very lenient on the issue.

Taking away coin being one thing, but I wish they also removed all their droppable items. That way they can't sell all their manastones being stockpiled or whatever to get cash back.

But, taking away loot from a guild that might have a couple bad-apples isn't the way to go either. MQ2 doesn't kill dragons for guilds, it's not some ticket to easy mode. It is a crutch for bad players though.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Yeah Badmartigan but if a core group of people ensured you were getting said mobs and people benefited from that then what do you do? If one guy on the 4x400 relay team pops, you all lose your medals. I think this is what they may have been getting at. And what would you do if someone got some loot in a previous guild a year ago? There is no real way to be fair without knowing the truth of every situation and that is nigh impossible.

[Harrison]

Regardless.

Fucking scumbags all got off WAY too easy. Disgusting.