Questions about starting a casual warrior.

[Crede]

Don’t even bother with scd. Just go dual lammies / jade mace and switch to reaver at 20. Even with cap it still slaps your duel wield isnt that good yet.

[WarpathEQ]

I think technically CHA is the big brain min/max starting stat for warriors. Not really sure what advice to give when you are clearly an end game min/maxxer but building a toon that you don't plan to use that way.

Obvious melee twink gear to get started. Only thing I haven't seen mentioned is the venomous axe is a no-brainer cheap twink weapon that procs at lvl 1. Pair it with a frost bringer for some solid dps/agro. Probably wait until 30 to swap to a 2hander if you do.

I personally would roll Ogre but I did find myself thinking Gnome based on the details OP provided. If you can get some of that tinkering gear its pretty nice for solo stuff.

[usmcjdking]

Gnome Warrior can easily solo to 60 whereas the other races can't do it without an extreme amount of twinking. I know because I spent a vast majority of my time soloing on my gnome warrior.

You realistically only need 3 items to solo on gnome warrior - Cobalt BP, Bandaid Dagger, Clockwork Arms.

[Defo]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah procs are always a gamble. I ran the numbers in the EC warrior weapon thread and if you get any 400hate proc off it basically wins over even SBOZ white damage but most EC 1h proc weapons don't have great ratios so if you don't proc you're left behind. I was wondering how much I wanted to gamble on that in a group setting at 40+. I figured with everyone being twinked you might want a little edge.

On my warrior, I noticed the best combo for aggro was Seb Croaking Dirk + Frostbringer. I'd assume, naturally that Swiftblade of Zek and Blade of Carnage would do better.

That combo Seb Dirk + FB beat things like the Sarnak Warhammer, Wrapped Entropy Spine, etc. The 18 delay on the main hand is great for aggro.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by usmcjdking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gnome Warrior can easily solo to 60 whereas the other races can't do it without an extreme amount of twinking. I know because I spent a vast majority of my time soloing on my gnome warrior.

You realistically only need 3 items to solo on gnome warrior - Cobalt BP, Bandaid Dagger, Clockwork Arms.

I’ve soloed a few different war builds, gnome included. I did a full dex build on my dwarf warrior who had the eyepatch of plunder, so gnome only had a 20% haste edge on me with arms. Also i had KT axe. Can’t think of a place gnome would have gone that my dwarf wouldn’t have. Biggest problem is cc at the higher levels. No matter how much dps you have you’re not really splitting 2-3 mobs without some lucky procs or breaking camp on another char. Warriors really aren’t a solo char despite how much you twink them. especially since root net recharge cost was nerfed.

[Jimjam]

Any race war can grind 51-60 on sonic bats / ldc, even if it is tiresome.

Rotten skeleton is an easy spot. The sk in loio sarnak fort. There are paths.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don’t even bother with scd. Just go dual lammies / jade mace and switch to reaver at 20. Even with cap it still slaps your duel wield isnt that good yet.

I also have 2 GCM lying around which are solid. I mentioned the SDC because the ratio is hard to beat for the price but yeah, around 20-30 i'll be switching to 2handers until at least 40 anyway.

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think technically CHA is the big brain min/max starting stat for warriors. Not really sure what advice to give when you are clearly an end game min/maxxer but building a toon that you don't plan to use that way.

Obvious melee twink gear to get started. Only thing I haven't seen mentioned is the venomous axe is a no-brainer cheap twink weapon that procs at lvl 1. Pair it with a frost bringer for some solid dps/agro. Probably wait until 30 to swap to a 2hander if you do.

I personally would roll Ogre but I did find myself thinking Gnome based on the details OP provided. If you can get some of that tinkering gear its pretty nice for solo stuff.

Yeah cha for DI but I'm not sure I'll ever get DI casted on me so I'm not looking to min/max that hard. I'm not even sure I'll ever raid on the toon but I'd still like to avoid some pitfalls. Gnome would be a good choice but my main is gnome and I want to try something else. Never tried ogre/troll starter areas so I'd like to do that at least once and try guk at lower levels and never played a large race either so that is interesting to me.

Yeah, I do have a venomous axe I plan to start with. Didn't mention it because I tried it when getting an EC bard mule to level 5 and I was underwhelmed by the proc rate but I'll see if it works better on longer kills. It also seems around lvl 25 when mobs get 1khp+ the proc starts losing its usefulness considering mallet is same damage but 20% faster. Def getting a frostbringer at 40 though.

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On my warrior, I noticed the best combo for aggro was Seb Croaking Dirk + Frostbringer. I'd assume, naturally that Swiftblade of Zek and Blade of Carnage would do better.

That combo Seb Dirk + FB beat things like the Sarnak Warhammer, Wrapped Entropy Spine, etc. The 18 delay on the main hand is great for aggro.

I recently learned that offhand hate generation seems bugged and uses the damage bonus in the hate calc even if it doesn't benefit from it in terms of damage. Hate calc is weap dmg + dmg bonus on every swing. Meaning SDC + Frostbringer would be better damage but FB + SDC would do more hate on paper due to proc weap in main hand.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gnome war BiS - self haste buff, wall hacks, goggle helmets. Need I say more?

You also get robes and are pre-shrunk. However, your weapon models are really small so your swag mostly comes from your helmet.

Halfling on the other hand has normal sized weapon models and the best feet graphics in the game.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Even for a casual warrior I'd aim for 175 dex. Sure you can rely on root for keeping aggro in groups. But getting to the 'sweet spot' of 175 is imnense for the proc rate and therefore hate/aggro generation.

[Jimjam]

I've read all sorts of contradictory info on proc rates - that it is a linear increase with dex, that it is a staggered increase every 50 starting at 105. I have no idea what is correct (neither in classic timeline nor for whatever the implementation is here).

What is the theory or data behind the 175 sweet spot? I've never read that one before.