What is humility and why is it good?

[red_demonman]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you actually read the bible? NOTHING Jesus said is in any way supportive of owning anything other than your own home and enough food to eat (let alone a company!). If you're a true Christian, owning everything that would have been considered "rich" around 0 A.D. means you're going to hell (there's that famous bible quote about it's harder for them to get into heaven than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle).

By the literal definition of Christ's words, 99.9% of Christians on this planet are going to hell ... but the Christian faith is more than Christ's literal word.

That is certainly one interpretation, but is not accurate at all when given in context. The surrounding verses explain very plainly what it means, From Mark 10 (NKJV):

23 Then Jesus looked around and said to His disciples, “How hard it is for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God!” 24 And the disciples were astonished at His words. But Jesus answered again and said to them, “Children, how hard it is [b]for those who trust in riches to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

The emphasis here is on trusting in riches and not trusting in God. Wealth in and of itself was not the sin but there is a recognition that with great riches there is a tendency to trust in your own accomplishments and wealth than to trust in God, which is sin.

Additionally in the New Testament there are wealthy believers that maintain wealth and use it toward the Kingdom, such as Lydia. She hosted others and used her wealth but the emphasis was not on living as a beggar. She was the definition of a wealthy businesswoman. She used her resources for good but there is not evidence that she threw away her business.

There are plenty of other examples also in the New Testament of wealth where people were prideful with their wealth, and it did not end well for those individuals (see Annanias and Sapphira).

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[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by red_demonman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is certainly one interpretation, but is not accurate at all when given in context. The surrounding verses explain very plainly what it means, From Mark 10 (NKJV):

23 Then Jesus looked around and said to His disciples, “How hard it is for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God!” 24 And the disciples were astonished at His words. But Jesus answered again and said to them, “Children, how hard it is [b]for those who trust in riches to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

The emphasis here is on trusting in riches and not trusting in God. Wealth in and of itself was not the sin but there is a recognition that with great riches there is a tendency to trust in your own accomplishments and wealth than to trust in God, which is sin.

Additionally in the New Testament there are wealthy believers that maintain wealth and use it toward the Kingdom, such as Lydia. She hosted others and used her wealth but the emphasis was not on living as a beggar. She was the definition of a wealthy businesswoman. She used her resources for good but there is not evidence that she threw away her business.

There are plenty of other examples also in the New Testament of wealth where people were prideful with their wealth, and it did not end well for those individuals (see Annanias and Sapphira).

Thanks for coming to my bible study on an elf forum.

While Logan Paul is getting sued and losing Prime and while Andrew Tate is getting sued as well, it still does end well for them. They will keep a part of their wealth and never need to work again. Is God really going to judge these people? I don't really care but I wonder what I can do in my life to be more pleasing to God.

I never really cared for getting rich and was happy with what the 9-5 job gave me. I never really cared for entrepreneurship or stuff like that. But these two just scammed people to get rich. And I got scammed too last year so I know how it feels. But I don't care because God will judge everyone accordingly.

So what can I do to be more God pleasing? Am I doing something wrong with my life?

[shovelquest]

Wwhat Jesus says about wealth and possessions isn’t framed as rules for earthly survival. Its preparation for life in the kingdom of heaven.

When he tells the rich man to sell everything or urges people not to worry about tomorrow, he’s describing what life looks like under God’s reign, not necessarily how to navigate the economy or politics.

When he says the meek will inherit the earth, he doesn't mean homeless people. He means humble people. It don't matter if they have money or do, he means anyone who entrusts themselves to gods justice instead of forcing their way with violence, wealth, or political power.

Make your way, do as you will, but be kind and humble and accept that you are a servant of god (jesus) and you're gucci.

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wwhat Jesus says about wealth and possessions isn’t framed as rules for earthly survival. Its preparation for life in the kingdom of heaven.

When he tells the rich man to sell everything or urges people not to worry about tomorrow, he’s describing what life looks like under God’s reign, not necessarily how to navigate the economy or politics.

When he says the meek will inherit the earth, he doesn't mean homeless people. He means humble people. It don't matter if they have money or do, he means anyone who entrusts themselves to gods justice instead of forcing their way with violence, wealth, or political power.

And again it is there, the "humble" people. As from the "lizard" people I know that they are politcians and have Jewish surnames like -stein or something. But from the "humble" people I know NOTHING, which is why I asked this question. Who are the HUMBLE people?

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But from the "humble" people I know NOTHING, which is why I asked this question. Who are the HUMBLE people?

anyone who entrusts themselves to gods justice instead of forcing their way with violence, wealth, or political power.

When they feed you to the lions, let them eat you.

When they kill 6 million of your brothers and sisters, let them kill 6 million.

Do you see how that has made these 2 groups the most powerful influencers on earth?

There's something that should be said about that.

[Ekco]

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[SorenVC]

It always sounded like rich people can't go to heaven because heaven is a state of mind they can not achieve because they are always striving for more riches. Maybe a literal heaven isn't real? Or do you think the spiritual world / heaven is where we go when we are dead? It might be true. But that doesn't answer the question of what I'm supposed to do with my money. I got about 9k euros in the bank right now. What am I supposed to do with it?

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok and how can I be humble and God pleasing? What must I do?

Accept Jesus. Done.

[SorenVC]

Well if I do that (entrust myself to God's justice) in Far Cry of Half-Life or EverQuest I'll just be turned into minced meat. Which is why I have confusion about this humility. Is it just magic?

[SorenVC]

What about the stalkers in Half-Life 2. Are they not pure humility? They entrusted themselves to the Combine which is like the law, and the law is run by God. Yet he made them into that. How can Gordon Freeman wreck everything in his path and come out successful. Is he humble?