Mon pathing and safe areas

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Vladesch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In general mobs follow specific paths for eqemu.

(I say "in general" because afaik all mobs follow specific paths, however as I am not an expert there may be some specific exceptions I am unaware of.
This is clear from looking at the database)

Most(?) of the database has been altered (for the better imo).

Looking at either the public DB or public branch of source isn't a clear representation of what you will encounter here.

[mwatt]

Quite some time ago, I actually did submit a bug for mob pathing in the large burnt spot that is adjacent to the Giant Fort and a large crater (If you look it up, I mispelled "Burning" as "Buring").

That was a great place to pull to and kite in as needed. But the pathing is different here. Unfortunately, I agree with other posters who hazard a guess that providing the correct raw data is nearly impossible, and some dev_001 altering the pathing of several mobs to create such a safe spot seems almost as unlikely.

And yet there is a dearth of places to solo at high levels. Burning Woods was always one of those places on Live - but it is unfortunately somewhat compromised on P99. Not complaining! Project 1999 is great and we are all indebted to the development crew -past and present - including the folks who created EQEmu.

[Uthgaard]

There are packet collecting tools available that can grab pathing information. If you have a live account, go grab some packets in some zones where the content hasn't changed much.

[miethos]

I hope when EQ Live is dead and gone that Sony would do the right thing and make their db data public domain for the open source community. I'm not gonna hold my breath on that however lol

[miethos]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are packet collecting tools available that can grab pathing information. If you have a live account, go grab some packets in some zones where the content hasn't changed much.

Can packet collection tools even detect way points and such for pathing? I would think it just grabs locations of mobs at a given time like a snapshot.

[Vynn]

Originally Posted by miethos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can packet collection tools even detect way points and such for pathing? I would think it just grabs locations of mobs at a given time like a snapshot.

Even if that is the case, compiling said data over a certain span of time would/should yield desirable results.

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are packet collecting tools available that can grab pathing information. If you have a live account, go grab some packets in some zones where the content hasn't changed much.

Isn't that something that's bannable or do they just not care anymore? I stopped playing during PoP but I remember them being pretty hardcore anti 3rd party programs. I remember the backlash when they implemented their thing that snooped on your computer actively looking for stuff.

[kalzin]

yes it is considered a banable offence, and technically any of the data that is gathered couldn't be used without some sort of tweaking due to the legality of using said information "captured" from the live servers...

[Vladesch]

Sounds like overkill to me.
You could make it a useful zone just by picking a fairly safe spot and changing the pathing of about 3 mobs, so it becomes a completely safe spot... as it was on live.

Sadly the problem exists in multiple zones.