Mage Pally for dungeon crawl duo?

[Ranagar]

Very good replies, allot to think about so thank you. If we aren’t doing the chanter/cleric or shaman/monk and accept the step down in power than anything goes. Thanks again!

[loramin]

Exatly: there are "min/maxed" duo pairs, and there are "ugh ... that's going to be awkward" pairs.

Mage/Pali won't be either, but it will be a viable (and not bad at all) duo. Plus it will also give you a good start to building a full group when you meet others (just grab a healer, and maybe a slower and/or more DPS, and you're set).

[Keebz]

If you're not twinked, you'll probably want to play the paladin as pulls/cc/support for a large chunk of the level range. Just get single pulls into camp, park adds, heal / buff, and otherwise control the situation, while the pet does its business.

[loramin]

Definitely, but keep in mind, one huge advantage of a duo is that while a Mage pet normally eats 50% of the XP (if it survives the fight), in a duo your partner gets that XP instead. So unlike with normal Mage soloing, you won't want to summon a fresh pet every fight, because it will be more efficient to use them for 2-3 fights (and maybe even buff them more than you normally would).

The pet will still heal much faster than a player, so you still want it to take the bulk of the damage, not the Paladin ... but you will want the Paladin to step in and tank some, both to make the pet last longer, and so that he can be recovering HP at the same time the pet is (doing nothing at max health is just waste).

[kjs86z2]

If you aren't planning on actively using the mage as a coth bot later on, I wouldn't bother. Garbage / boring class.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you aren't planning on actively using the mage as a coth bot later on, I wouldn't bother. Garbage / boring class.

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[PatChapp]

I mean he's not alk that wrong. Boring on raids at least. Fun in small group stuff though,absolutely useless solo at 60.

[Vexenu]

Perfectly viable duo from 1-60. In fact, if you exclude the traditional OP duo classes (ENC, CLR, MNK, SHM) this is probably one of the better duos in the game. Very strong tanking and CC, good healing, tons of DPS. Deepwater Helm and Burnt Wood Staff will both be tremendous in this duo at 45+, and will do a lot to help offset the lack of slow by drastically increasing your efficiency. Both of these classes can easily solo to 60, and they just so happen to almost perfectly offset each other's weaknesses (Mage: lack of CC, Pal: lack of DPS), so teaming them up them is almost a no-brainer.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean he's not alk that wrong. Boring on raids at least. Fun in small group stuff though,absolutely useless solo at 60.

Yes and no.

Boring in raids can be a good thing for one thing. Less responsibility, especially if COTH-bots replace the need for you. Summoning mod rods and collecting warmbody DKP isn't bad. And for those who want to you can collect invulnerability clickies and do some advanced pulls, even if almost no one ever actually does this.

For solo at 60, if you ever somehow manage to get an Epic and even if you don't perhaps you could tear up low level dungeons for pp/hr that rivals most cash plat drop camps and whilst being a lot safer. Boring? Certainly. However, also much better QoL. Compared to a ranger, rogue, warrior or cleric - are you really any worse off?

It can be said that you don't need any gear as a mage but if you want Epic and all the bells and whistles it's still a hefty investment getting the clicky boots, manna robe and all. Resist and +hp gear will also make your day easier. Theoretically you could even try to stack AC and get a willsapper and see if you could squeeze out more power of your class.

The only flack I think the Mage class deserves is that the Epic is just stupidly difficult.

[Balimon]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes and no.

Boring in raids can be a good thing for one thing. Less responsibility, especially if COTH-bots replace the need for you. Summoning mod rods and collecting warmbody DKP isn't bad. And for those who want to you can collect invulnerability clickies and do some advanced pulls, even if almost no one ever actually does this.

For solo at 60, if you ever somehow manage to get an Epic and even if you don't perhaps you could tear up low level dungeons for pp/hr that rivals most cash plat drop camps and whilst being a lot safer. Boring? Certainly. However, also much better QoL. Compared to a ranger, rogue, warrior or cleric - are you really any worse off?

It can be said that you don't need any gear as a mage but if you want Epic and all the bells and whistles it's still a hefty investment getting the clicky boots, manna robe and all. Resist and +hp gear will also make your day easier. Theoretically you could even try to stack AC and get a willsapper and see if you could squeeze out more power of your class.

The only flack I think the Mage class deserves is that the Epic is just stupidly difficult.

This guy gets it.

Any DPS class duos well with paladin, it's what they lack. For the OP that will be a great leveling duo for you all the way to 60, go for it.