Ranking top 20 War Agro Weapons (any zone)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by AEH84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kflame has the exact same stats as the trident and better white damage. Total aggro per minute is basically identical on Kflame and Trident. People just use trident because that's what others use.

Trident's nice for the slow proc on top of it's agro generation. Can never go wrong with a weapon that can apply a mini slow if Shamans are having trouble landing the initial slow. I don't think many raids are banking on the MT's DPS to get them across the finish line.

Trident slow uses CR instead of MR, so it can slow a few targets that are MR immune if I recall correctly.

[Eisai]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trident's nice for the slow proc on top of it's agro generation. Can never go wrong with a weapon that can apply a mini slow if Shamans are having trouble landing the initial slow. I don't think many raids are banking on the MT's DPS to get them across the finish line.

Trident slow uses CR instead of MR, so it can slow a few targets that are MR immune if I recall correctly.

Nice!

[AEH84]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trident's nice for the slow proc on top of it's agro generation. Can never go wrong with a weapon that can apply a mini slow if Shamans are having trouble landing the initial slow. I don't think many raids are banking on the MT's DPS to get them across the finish line.

Trident slow uses CR instead of MR, so it can slow a few targets that are MR immune if I recall correctly.

I totally get that. My response would be that the slow itself is inconsequential. It's useful for like 3 mobs and a 10% slow doesnt change the cadence of a CH chain at all. At least not in my guild. It's reliant on it's proc for aggro (and there's definitely something to be said for opening a fight with a couple big 400 hate procs).

Kflame proc is minimal hate, but the white damage is equally as dominant over the trident's as the trident's proc is over the Kflame's. The only difference is the white damage aggro is gonna be smoother and more consistent. You'll also get riposted slightly more with the Kflame. Im not saying one is better than the other btw. I'm saying Kflame is very underrated and should absolutely be considered in the same tier as trident. Another point is that Kflame is superior for silence fights as well so literally doesnt need to be bagged. There is a list of probably 7-8 weapons that would be better in your main hand than a trident in a silence fight and for Kflame, there is one weapon. Scepter of Destruction only.

[Naethyn]

I don't find kflame to be good.

[AEH84]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't find kflame to be good.

Can't argue with that!

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by AEH84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kflame has the exact same stats as the trident and better white damage. Total aggro per minute is basically identical on Kflame and Trident. People just use trident because that's what others use.

Might be fine on an ogre,but my dwarf gets stunned a lot on mobs like aow. I've been stunned up to 1/3 of the fight so need the proc agro. I usually mainhand my red blade unless it's a mob that can be trident slowed,like ltk.

[Jimjam]

Proc weapons can get lucky on aggro, which really lets DPS open up the taps if they are paying attention.

[AEH84]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Might be fine on an ogre,but my dwarf gets stunned a lot on mobs like aow. I've been stunned up to 1/3 of the fight so need the proc agro. I usually mainhand my red blade unless it's a mob that can be trident slowed,like ltk.

I can't really argue with this point. The stun would definitely give favor to the proc weapon. For actual raid mobs where you need the HP and stats, I think red blade should almost always be in the main hand (unless you have a scepter or it's a silence fight).

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't find kflame to be good.

Yep.

[AEH84]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep.

I’m receptive to this, I’d just like to hear why. I gave some decent reasons why I thought it was on par with trident and haven’t heard anything besides the point about being stunned that would give me reason to reconsider. I really have no vested interest in Kflame, I just want to optimize my aggro setup.