Do you consider torpor to be truly classic?

[Solist]

All these people guessing at basic game mechanics badly that have been unchanged for 12 years on p99, discussing game mechanics....

No wonder. Where's the chat GPT dude who just posts fake memory shit from p99, he's more reliable in a technical discussion.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All these people guessing at basic game mechanics badly that have been unchanged for 12 years on p99, discussing game mechanics....

No wonder. Where's the chat GPT dude who just posts fake memory shit from p99, he's more reliable in a technical discussion.

I only meant to point out torpor griefing, Judgey. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zuranthium]

Torpor isn't classic in the sense that far less people had the spell back then, barely anyone before Velious.

Clerics were considered to be the "Holy Trinity" of grouping (Tank + Enchanter + Cleric) because they all had Complete Heal for the tank, whereas Shaman were mostly just working with Superior Healing, or eventually Chloroblast during Velious.

[Dolalin]

I put together a spreadsheet from all the historical spdats I found that track spell changes over time. You can take a look and filter the spreadsheet for Torpor to see how it changed over time.

https://github.com/dbsanfte/eq-archi...AT%20Data.xlsx

[Dolalin]

Here is how Torpor changed over time.

It had no mana drain in Kunark beta, but one was added in the April 2000 spdat, and it remained until the Nov 17th 2000 patch.

[loramin]

So Mages (a weak class) don't even get their basic spells at launch, but Shaman (we just had a whole thread about them being the best class in the game) get their most over-powered spell extra over-powered for half a year?

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Mages (a weak class) don't even get their basic spells at launch, but Shaman (we just had a whole thread about them being the best class in the game) get their most over-powered spell extra over-powered for half a year?

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In before “spdat files are just descriptions which often didn’t line up with how spells actually worked server side and if anything torpor was actually even more powerful on live during this era”.

[Dolalin]

I'm working on Google Gemini integration with the EQ Archive btw.

Idea is that you search for a set of docs from the archive, then it's shipped to Gemini (1m+ token context window) and you ask Gemini a question about the set of docs.

So let's say you give it all pages in the archive that mention primal weapons, and you ask it which types of primal dropped most often, based on that context.

It works in principle. ChatGPT is helping me write the web UI for it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman get their most over-powered spell extra over-powered for half a year?

Torpor was far less powerful for half a year, making the target lose 50 mana per tick. The archived spell description and user comments on Caster's Realm and other sites also state this.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm working on Google Gemini integration with the EQ Archive btw.

Idea is that you search for a set of docs from the archive, then it's shipped to Gemini (1m+ token context window) and you ask Gemini a question about the set of docs.

So let's say you give it all pages in the archive that mention primal weapons, and you ask it which types of primal dropped most often, based on that context.

It works in principle. ChatGPT is helping me write the web UI for it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds awesome, and a good use for a LLM! Let me know if you need any help; I implemented a web UI for a different AI (Claude) at work a month ago.