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Old 05-09-2024, 03:08 PM
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Are you looking for more info on how to charm kill specifically?
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Old 02-05-2024, 06:35 PM
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Here's how I survive charm breaks against hard mobs.

Stun first (color line), hit alliance wand to reset GCD, AE mez (the spell called mezmerization with the green spell gem), now both the mob and your pet are mezzed. Use this opportunity to re-charm your pet. Mez always lasts the same amount of time, so your pet will become re-petted before the mez on the mob you're killing wears off. Just tell him to attack. You'll probably also have enough time to mem blur (blanket of forgetfulness) the mob you're killing, so he won't have any aggro bias toward you when his mez wears off (this also prevents you from getting summoned by summoning mobs after a charm break. They may regen a chunk of hp during this period but it's usually not a big deal).

It sounds wayyyyy more complicated than it is. The best lesson you can learn as an enchanter is that you are gonna die a lot in general, because you get some of the most powerful abilities in the game. But once you learn the specific details of a camp, it's usually dead simple. Your worst enemy is bad luck and freaking out if things go sideways. Embrace the dying, it means you're learning the class.
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Old 02-05-2024, 06:55 PM
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Here's how I survive charm breaks against hard mobs.

Stun first (color line), hit alliance wand to reset GCD, AE mez (the spell called mezmerization with the green spell gem), now both the mob and your pet are mezzed. Use this opportunity to re-charm your pet. Mez always lasts the same amount of time, so your pet will become re-petted before the mez on the mob you're killing wears off. Just tell him to attack. You'll probably also have enough time to mem blur (blanket of forgetfulness) the mob you're killing, so he won't have any aggro bias toward you when his mez wears off (this also prevents you from getting summoned by summoning mobs after a charm break. They may regen a chunk of hp during this period but it's usually not a big deal).

It sounds wayyyyy more complicated than it is. The best lesson you can learn as an enchanter is that you are gonna die a lot in general, because you get some of the most powerful abilities in the game. But once you learn the specific details of a camp, it's usually dead simple. Your worst enemy is bad luck and freaking out if things go sideways. Embrace the dying, it means you're learning the class.
AE mez is great,if he's over lvl 55 and immune. The amount of times I mezzed myself with this spell while leveling..need to make sure it's going to land while the mobs are out of range if your 55 or less.
It's a very useful tool in groups to, you can target the puller and mez the whole bunch as they come in.
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Old 02-05-2024, 07:01 PM
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AE mez is great,if he's over lvl 55 and immune. The amount of times I mezzed myself with this spell while leveling..need to make sure it's going to land while the mobs are out of range if your 55 or less.
It's a very useful tool in groups to, you can target the puller and mez the whole bunch as they come in.
Really? I don't think I've ever gotten mezzed by it, I always seem to resist it and my resists are not high at all. I figured it had some kind of negative MR check if you're the caster or something (like how snare always wears off super fast if you cast it on yourself as a ranger or druid).

Although I dont think I really used it until early 50s, maybe I got lucky and then after 55 I was immune and didn't notice.
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Old 02-05-2024, 07:18 PM
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So pre-55, I guess for AE mez you just need to stand back a little bit. If you've ever quadded on a druid or wizard, you need to be as close to the mobs as the mobs are to eachother in order to get hit by it. So in lower guk for example, if your charm breaks and the mob and pet are now on you, hit your color line stun, then GCD with your alliance wand, then just step back a couple feet while the mobs are still stunned and cast AE mez.

A GCD item is crucial for that btw (get a rod of insidious glamour if you haven't yet) otherwise the stun doesn't last long enough to get the AE mez off.
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Old 02-05-2024, 07:31 PM
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One more general tip: It can be helpful to practice any chanter solo strat by finding a nice big juicy outdoor zone with low level mobs like the karanas and just practicing. You can get the keystrokes\spell lineup\timing down with almost no risk or the embarassment of dying in front of people (though again you need to get used to that lol).
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Old 02-05-2024, 07:47 PM
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Oh and one last tip about charm breaks: Remember that pets can be equipped with gear. Your best tash-line spell will drop it's MR some, but you can also equip that pet with negative MR gear to decrease the likelihood that charm will break. Every server tick (6 seconds roughly) the game checks your CHA and the mob's MR to determine if the particular charm you have on it should break or not.

Two adamantite bands + rusty spiked shoulder pads will drop the mob -30 MR on top of whatever tash you have on it, and they are very cheap items to farm or buy. You can also recover them from your pet as long as you kill it eventually (and it's not a quest mob).
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Old 02-05-2024, 11:39 PM
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1) Trade C for SoW, you will usually end up with a line of druids/shamen/rangers drooling for crack
2) Root is your friend
3) Be flexible. Charmed pets are the best dps but the summoned chanter pet is very underrated especially before you hit the 50's. Learn how to use both types of pets.
4) Group. Enchanters are highly desired in groups and in a duo with a skilled cleric are OP
5) F dying, you have root fear mez lull etc just gate the F out worst case scenario
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Old 02-06-2024, 10:04 PM
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Yeah the thing with charisma is that it doesn't really matter how much it effects charm duration, because it definitely effects lull crit resist chance massively, so as a solo ench (which is what the op was asking about I believe) you will always want to prioritize it over int or raw mana. Dying at efreeti and then having to lull your way back in with no gear (and thus no extra cha other than your self buff) is a rough time. You'll probably notice there aren't a whole lot of items in the game that offer both int\mana and cha, and when they do they're pretty valuable.

On the topic of dying I'll reiterate: get used to it. You are going to die, especially solo, a lot. The good news is that the times you don't die, the mob dies instead and you get crazily valuable items. And even the times you do die, you probably learned something about what not to do next time. No amount of reading can really substitute for just screwing around with the class and seeing what it can and can't do.
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Old 02-06-2024, 10:24 PM
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Oh another thing: If you're in close quarters like a dungeon and you want to mem blur a mob, pacify it first. So mez it, then paci it, then mem blur it. Mobs that are mezzed still stack up body aggro targets by proximity, so if you just mez a mob and mem blur it but you're still standing right next to it and it's KOS, it will just attack you as soon as the mez breaks.

Another mem blur tip: You can tell a mob is successfully blurred if it's /con changes to whatever it would normally be if you hadn't aggroed it in the first place. It will also start regening HP as if it were disengaged, and if it's rooted it will not turn to face you as you strafe around it.
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