AOE in Skyfire - Page 2

Pescador · #1 07-12-2011, 09:29 PM

I know that while pulling for aoe groups, I usually run song of travel, and every now and then I'll get hit by a chromo dispel or a melee. I'm assuming the highest level of drac / wurm / drake has a % chance to see invis. The invis breaks are almost certainly not caused by social aggro since I run way ahead of the train. I might swing by SF sometime to test this for sure, though.

YendorLootmonkey · #2 07-12-2011, 09:39 PM

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I know that while pulling for aoe groups, I usually run song of travel, and every now and then I'll get hit by a chromo dispel or a melee. I'm assuming the highest level of drac / wurm / drake has a % chance to see invis. The invis breaks are almost certainly not caused by social aggro since I run way ahead of the train. I might swing by SF sometime to test this for sure, though.

I've never had an issue with anything seeing thru Superior Camo in there. However, you have spent considerably more time in SF than I have, so I defer to your experience.

Motec · #3 07-13-2011, 01:16 AM

Resists are fine. It's the fact seb and hs pathing is fu so you have to ae skyfire. When there I'll rez and buff anyone who asks and so will every chanter. What's the problem? Once every 20-30mins there is 40 seconds of risk at bw zone? Compared to every dungeon zone thats good odds.

Messianic · #4 07-13-2011, 07:42 AM

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This post is a combination warning and complaint about how AOE groups in Skyfire can affect an unsuspecting player.

The other day I zoned into SF and ran to the mouth of BW zone area, recalling from Live that this was a good place to pull too, there being plenty of mobs and a few nameds that wander near by. I wasn't there more than a couple of minutes before I was instantaneously being whomped on by a plethora of Wurms, Chromodraks and Wyverns. Needless to day death was swift.

At first I thought, what the heck? Is this a train? I didn't even see it coming. It turns out that it was the result of an AOE group doing it's thing at the BW zone line. I had heard a couple of people say that SkyFire was "no good" because of AOE groups pulling almost the entire zone. At the time, I had mentally written this off as hyperbole.

Now, having had the experience (or the lack thereof, heh) described above, I can see their point. The BW zone line and the area leading to it is a prime experience area for SF. The decision to do massive AOE fighting at this particular point within the zone seems somehow dicey to me. It isn't so much the fact that so many mobs at once are being pulled from the general surroundings, as it is the inherent danger in this type of fighting to passers by and other unsuspecting players.

I could wish that AOE groups would not set up right there and also that they would warn the zone before each mega-pull. As it stands, I actually have trepidation about simply approaching this area of the zone. For this to be understood, perhaps you'd have to have experienced what the experience was like. One moment, it was blue sky and a sunny day - the next moment, without any sort of visual or textual warning was: "WOMP WOMP WOMP WOMP ... loading...".

To be fair, a cleric from the group (groups?) involved did give me a 96% rez, which was nice. On the other hand, that is a 4% experience loss and a helping of aggravation that I don't feel like I had coming.

I hate to be insensitive (since there are like 500+ other people to be that way on these forums), but QQ more. All I see is that you died once (not twice, not 5 times, not wherever you tried to solo - only in one spot in the zone) - and you got a 96% rez. This is an MMO - if you didn't want to be involuntarily affected by others' actions, you really shouldn't play MMOs like EQ.

Was that really worth your massive wall of text? I really don't think so.

Ele · #5 07-13-2011, 10:15 AM

The bard needs the ability to zone and aggro dump the cleric, which in conjunction with the flat ground makes the BW zoneline the only effective area to AoE.

Nirgon · #6 07-13-2011, 10:18 AM

Chromodracs I believe see invis and will stomp you out son.

I'd never aoe there. Only time I ever went there was farming spells in front of VP.

Messianic · #7 07-13-2011, 10:35 AM

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Chromodracs I believe see invis and will stomp you out son.

I'd never aoe there. Only time I ever went there was farming spells in front of VP.

Every Chromadrac i've seen has not seen through invis, even the mature ones.

Ele · #8 07-13-2011, 10:36 AM

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Chromodracs I believe see invis and will stomp you out son.

I'd never aoe there. Only time I ever went there was farming spells in front of VP.

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Every Chromadrac i've seen has not seen through invis, even the mature ones.

It would truly suck if Chromadracs saw invis. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Thank goodness they do not.

Atmas · #9 07-13-2011, 11:14 AM

Sorry to downplay your frustration but numerous people AoE group or not fight at zonelines and in most cases that can really only support one person/group anyway. Imagine if you and just one other guy were there and if your pull agroed the other guy or you had to zone a mob and it agroed the other guy.

You also can only be so mad about getting killed if you got a rez and likely buffs immediately afterwards.

Nirgon · #10 07-13-2011, 05:16 PM

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It would truly suck if Chromadracs saw invis. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Thank goodness they do not.

99.99% sure they did on live. Porting into Skyfire was a death sentence via the Wizard portal.