Question for p99 vets

[Lune]

I can only imagine moderating this place. It's mostly insane drivel, there are only like 10 people, but they're insanely prolific, and about 8 of them would be outspoken racists if it didn't result in an occasional vacation. So they're dog whistle racists/bigots. But wait, they also veeerryyy sloowlly push the boundaries until there is a purge. Rinse/repeat. Yikes.

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[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can only imagine moderating this place. It's mostly insane drivel, there are only like 10 people, but they're insanely prolific, and about 8 of them would be outspoken racists if it didn't result in an occasional vacation. So they're dog whistle racists/bigots. But wait, they also veeerryyy sloowlly push the boundaries until there is a purge. Rinse/repeat. Yikes.

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The only dude I've seen who is racist is that guy who is now banned who rants about jewish people all the time. I literally can't think of any other poster who I'd consider covertly racist much less openly racist. Also nice mind reading trick: "sure nobody here is saying anything racist but I know they really arrrrrreee!!!"

By far the most alarming trend here to me is the weird quasi-religious biblical stuff that some people will just go into these crazy long tangents about. I still don't know if it's genuine or not but it doesn't really matter. And whatever sadre is.

[arvidez]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And whatever sadre is.

he is the butterfly from 'the last unicorn'.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and whatever sadre is.

Originally Posted by arvidez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he is the butterfly from 'the last unicorn'.

Good assessment of Sadre. Every now and again he likes to remind of us of his caterpillar days. Guy really went the distance to become a butterfly and it shows.

[Seducio]

I'm more thinking about toward the future. The public facing p99 website and public facing p99 forum might need to become more welcoming overall if the p99 team wants to compete going forward. This includes forum moderation that isn't currently happening. P99 is no longer the only game in town.

If these forums focused more on EQ community, P1999 community, and Gaming topic only type spaces to communicate with other folks interested in p99 I would enjoy it better then it's current setup. The 10 people you mentioned might disagree with me about that though and that's ok. Some appear to use this site as a therapist or friend as best as I can tell and that is ok I guess it doesn't cost them anything. There are only a few trained medical professionals on this site though, mostly unknown because of privacy, so the exchange is more peer to peer than anything that could be described as therapeutic in a clinical sense.

Many gaming companies/orgs decide to keep their forums relatively on topic to avoid drama that can distract from the games community that is being built. P99 forums instead has a community with RnF and a percentage of Off Topic which is essentially RnF that appears wholly disconnected from the game Everquest. These forums have survived many bouts of drama and political acrimony which have turned off everyone except for the 10 people Lune mentioned. RnF doesn't seem needed anymore in the era of Social Media. Social media is designed for RnF in ways this forum could never be without major programming changes to the forums code and design.

Updating the rules and enforcing them in a transparent manner in an environment with new competitive EQ Emu servers entering the scene would encourage more people to play P1999 and feel welcome here. Currently with the competition that is now out there the marketing of this server and how it differentiates itself might matter in the future more than it appears to matter now.

With all respect to many of those here, I am more interested learning about different and cool ways to play EQ from folks/vets that have been playing it for over two decades than I am interested in debating politics with other EQ players.

I can find more appropriate venues to do that.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The 10 people you mentioned might disagree with me about that though and that's ok

There’s less than 10 people that post on this forum lol

You’re a good guy, Seducio

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With all respect to many of those here, I am more interested learning about different and cool ways to play EQ from folks/vets that have been playing it for over two decades than I am interested in debating politics with other EQ players.

I can find more appropriate venues to do that.

The problem with a lot of forums are they are either too large or have downvotes/upvotes, IMO

Too large of a forum and conversations get lost and buried under hundreds of replies

Downvotes/upvotes are trash, simply encouraging bandwagon bullying to silence opposing viewpoints. Whichever side has more people downvotes any dissenting opinion into oblivion

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm more thinking about toward the future. The public facing p99 website and public facing p99 forum might need to become more welcoming overall if the p99 team wants to compete going forward. This includes forum moderation that isn't currently happening. P99 is no longer the only game in town.

If these forums focused more on EQ community, P1999 community, and Gaming topic only type spaces to communicate with other folks interested in p99 I would enjoy it better then it's current setup. The 10 people you mentioned might disagree with me about that though and that's ok. Some appear to use this site as a therapist or friend as best as I can tell and that is ok I guess it doesn't cost them anything. There are only a few trained medical professionals on this site though, mostly unknown because of privacy, so the exchange is more peer to peer than anything that could be described as therapeutic in a clinical sense.

Many gaming companies/orgs decide to keep their forums relatively on topic to avoid drama that can distract from the games community that is being built. P99 forums instead has a community with RnF and a percentage of Off Topic which is essentially RnF that appears wholly disconnected from the game Everquest. These forums have survived many bouts of drama and political acrimony which have turned off everyone except for the 10 people Lune mentioned. RnF doesn't seem needed anymore in the era of Social Media. Social media is designed for RnF in ways this forum could never be without major programming changes to the forums code and design.

Updating the rules and enforcing them in a transparent manner in an environment with new competitive EQ Emu servers entering the scene would encourage more people to play P1999 and feel welcome here. Currently with the competition that is now out there the marketing of this server and how it differentiates itself might matter in the future more than it appears to matter now.

With all respect to many of those here, I am more interested learning about different and cool ways to play EQ from folks/vets that have been playing it for over two decades than I am interested in debating politics with other EQ players.

I can find more appropriate venues to do that.

nobody cares hope this helps

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nobody cares hope this helps

If you are talking about P1999 very few do and you are mostly right. If you mean RL I'd say it depends on who you are with.

[Lune]

Off topic was among the slowest subforums for like 90% of the life of P99. The death of all the other subforums has more to do with demographics and Discord use than anything else, imo. There just aren't a lot of bright eyed, bushy-tailed, ignorant newbies anymore running around asking questions. Of the people left playing P99, I would guess many are die-hard veterans, soloists, or not deeply embedded enough in P99 culture to bother with the forums.

I doubt removing the only semi-active subforum left on the site would cause the other subforums, on a slowly dying emulator, to spring to life. If I had to guess, by this point, EQ emus have captured about all the market they are ever going to capture, outside a few young stragglers that wander in.

If P99 really wants to compete it can restart green and segue blue into custom content or a customized Luclin that doesn't deprecate all of Norrath, or something.