Current state of blue vs. green?

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Valakut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah its unfortunate but as someone who got to see all 3 eras on p99. everyone always thought the next era would make the server better but all it ever did was make it worse.

vanilla - knights who say ni hosting 150 person fear crawl pugs just pure classic adventuring
kunark - casual guilds clearing fear trash for fun and random armor drops shaman epics are 25k
velious - everyone is scared to zone into fear for fear of being disqualified on raid loot

i know fear is a niche thing but its a good reflection of how the server devolved from adventuring with strangers into cold calculating pixel drop rate probabilities

Little misleading not to acknowledge that fear clears for loot don't make sense when velious class armors etc becomes available. I do miss plane of hate and sky clear days from kunark though.

[Valakut]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Little misleading not to acknowledge that fear clears for loot don't make sense when velious class armors etc becomes available. I do miss plane of hate and sky clear days from kunark though.

thank you for copping to it.

theres no point to adventuring in everquest when you can minmax velious.

this really captures the millennial and gen z sense of entitlement as well as western imperial elitism.

[Valik1016]

Vadriel, I can appreciate that you and your friend were chatting, but were you really SO busy that you couldn't respond to someone else? And you're telling him that he should be more social to find groups.....well that is only helpful if the people you reach out to answer you back. I can see why he was frustrated. Even if you told him you were busy chatting and would be a minute before you could talk to him, that would be something. He would probably have totally accepted that. It takes two participants to be social.

[Glorfinrod]

Haven't been on Blue in a while, but I would also like to point out that Green is much more rife with hella stupid names (compared to what I remember on Blue).

[Raj]

Originally Posted by Glorfinrod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven't been on Blue in a while, but I would also like to point out that Green is much more rife with hella stupid names (compared to what I remember on Blue).

Green is great but this is pretty much true LOL.

[Arvan]

Imagine ever logging into ec tunnel ever again when discordquest exists

[jwargod]

42 Iksar Warrior Muhwife

Had a bad time after coming in after several years (last played when velious came out on p99/blue) trying to find a group as a 40-41 warrior this weekend on blue. There were people doing things, but it was all small groups/duos or power leveling. I even solo'd for awhile and offered this yeti camp in DL to a 40 monk who came by and they didn't respond. Bad luck eventually happened and I had to run out. When I came back, it was the same monk and a 57 shaman with them inside the case. I'm not mad they moved in, I'm mad they didn't take the offer in the first place where I would've left. Why didn't they want to talk? Is socializing that bad on blue?

Very little people want to group in this server or are tribalistic. I did manage to meet a nice Shaman and and monk/paladin yesterday for some pretty good xp, and even a druid lfg today, but there was endless hours of lfg between all that. Not to mention the EC trade tunnel is dead. Did I go to various places to look for a group in my range? Yes, even making sure to talk with some druids or wizards to make sure I moved around in a timely matter. And of course I tipped.

I'm still here lfg, and I'm just going to solo what I can in Dreadlands until I run out of bandages.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by jwargod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

42 Iksar Warrior Muhwife

Had a bad time after coming in after several years (last played when velious came out on p99/blue) trying to find a group as a 40-41 warrior this weekend on blue. There were people doing things, but it was all small groups/duos or power leveling. I even solo'd for awhile and offered this yeti camp in DL to a 40 monk who came by and they didn't respond. Bad luck eventually happened and I had to run out. When I came back, it was the same monk and a 57 shaman with them inside the case. I'm not mad they moved in, I'm mad they didn't take the offer in the first place where I would've left. Why didn't they want to talk? Is socializing that bad on blue?

Very little people want to group in this server or are tribalistic. I did manage to meet a nice Shaman and and monk/paladin yesterday for some pretty good xp, and even a druid lfg today, but there was endless hours of lfg between all that. Not to mention the EC trade tunnel is dead. Did I go to various places to look for a group in my range? Yes, even making sure to talk with some druids or wizards to make sure I moved around in a timely matter. And of course I tipped.

I'm still here lfg, and I'm just going to solo what I can in Dreadlands until I run out of bandages.

pugs are pretty hard to find nowadays, on bright side there is some good leveling type guilds to find and make grouping slightly easier. Tunnel is kinda dead cause a lot of folks moved to discord tunnelquest so that ya dont have to sit there all the time.

[Vadriel]

Jwargod, I'm the shaman who was in DL with my friend when you offered the camp. I'm sorry you were upset that we didn't respond we were just busy talking to each other. We did what we thought was polite and left the camp to you because normally exp camps are hard to come by. You said you couldn't find a group and we didn't want to shove you out. I've personally had good luck finding groups by just reaching out to other players in tells and asking if they could use whatever character I'm playing at the time. It does take being social and friendly to get by in a video game with no matchmaking system. And sometimes there is nothing we can organize or hop into so that's why everyone has alts.

[Fammaden]

People do PuG all the time on green, but there are a ton of inexperienced people in those PuG's who might drive you crazy. So much laziness, tabbed out autoattacking, afk manasong camp bards....even at the higher levels. If you're used to the hyper efficiency mindset from years of playing here, it gets pretty frustrating at times when only one or two people in a group are pulling their weight.

Part of the problem is on blue the conventional wisdom is that full groups are a waste of time, duo/trio is the min/max approach to XP, and many alts have the gear to make those small configurations really cook. On green generally the PuG's just fill the group, even if its suboptimal or not a needed class. Two tanks? No problem, you're in.

Overall the population disparity and the prevalence of actual new players on green makes blue a more challenging place to LFG for XP.