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Old 04-11-2023, 05:15 PM
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What does having the bard epic allow you to do that you can't already do?
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Old 04-11-2023, 05:21 PM
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What does having the bard epic allow you to do that you can't already do?
Look like Link from The Legend of Zelda.
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Old 04-11-2023, 10:31 PM
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What does having the bard epic allow you to do that you can't already do?
Modify singing songs that normally don't get modified, mod the rest by 1.8, procs haste as well. It's prob most class changing epic in game.

With pure tone can max everything with disc.
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Old 04-11-2023, 11:03 PM
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Modify singing songs that normally don't get modified, mod the rest by 1.8, procs haste as well. It's prob most class changing epic in game.

With pure tone can max everything with disc.
Because it counts as all instruments it means you can twist any combination of songs you want and get the bonus for all of them.

I'm lazy, so for me it would be permanently glued to my left hand and I wouldn't ever need to swap instruments again after getting it.
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Old 04-12-2023, 06:42 AM
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Modify singing songs that normally don't get modified, mod the rest by 1.8, procs haste as well. It's prob most class changing epic in game.

With pure tone can max everything with disc.
Sorry not trying to be dense, never played a bard past 30... but does that allow you solo things you otherwise couldn't? Just trying to understand how it effects gameplay.
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Old 04-12-2023, 08:20 AM
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Sorry not trying to be dense, never played a bard past 30... but does that allow you solo things you otherwise couldn't? Just trying to understand how it effects gameplay.
It lets you escape the purgatory of spamming mana and join one of the cool melee groups in raids. That is all I know.
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Old 04-12-2023, 09:45 AM
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Sorry not trying to be dense, never played a bard past 30... but does that allow you solo things you otherwise couldn't? Just trying to understand how it effects gameplay.
Don’t have to constantly swap instruments to modify them, some songs like psalms only can be modified with them, can you live without? Sure you can live in banded the whole game too. It does allow bard to play easier , proc a good haste and mod every song including singing.
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Old 04-12-2023, 09:57 PM
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Sorry not trying to be dense, never played a bard past 30... but does that allow you solo things you otherwise couldn't? Just trying to understand how it effects gameplay.
The main thing is that it counts as a 'singing instrument,' meaning it boosts songs of the singing category which otherwise can't be boosted in any way. It makes these songs 80% stronger. It's a straight-up power gain that you can't get in any other way.

Secondly, it counts as an instrument of all types so you don't have to swap instruments around while you're twisting your songs. Makes life infinitely easier and allows the bard to actually get into melee. It lets you do some DPS--not a ton, but some.

Thirdly, the proc is a better haste buff than you can otherwise provide, increasing the group's DPS further if you're the one providing haste to them.

It's a pretty big deal.
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Old 04-12-2023, 01:05 AM
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White scales, green scales, earth staffs…insane plat.
SEOC, BFG’s, Enchanter VD LR’s all around mid 100’s (not sure on ench, tbh)
SK leach mq and childs tear+fight maybe same price? Just under 100k.

The rest are very reasonable. Mage too if you loot a water staff and are ok with what that can do.

My bard is close to 60 in guardian armor with a walrus drum. It’s not ideal but still fun.
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Old 04-12-2023, 01:18 AM
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White scales, green scales, earth staffs…insane plat.
SEOC, BFG’s, Enchanter VD LR’s all around mid 100’s (not sure on ench, tbh)
SK leach mq and childs tear+fight maybe same price? Just under 100k.

The rest are very reasonable. Mage too if you loot a water staff and are ok with what that can do.

My bard is close to 60 in guardian armor with a walrus drum. It’s not ideal but still fun.
SK Epic is cheaper now? Could've sworn it used to be around 200k. It's much more bottlenecked than the Pally Epic.

150k for SEoC sounds about right.
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