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Old 03-16-2023, 10:29 PM
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input. it's been very helpful to see everyones different perspective's and i find it fun to have these convo's cause i learn a lot. Much appreciated!
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Old 03-17-2023, 03:18 AM
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20 cha bc you might do trade skills one day and need a deal on those merchant materials
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Old 03-17-2023, 04:53 PM
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20 cha bc you might do trade skills one day and need a deal on those merchant materials
From an RP perspective I've always loved the idea of a Necromancer or a Shadowknight with really high Charisma that they use to their advantage to help manipulate other people.
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Old 03-15-2023, 10:10 PM
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INT is fine, but I'd still go STA, as INT is a lot easier to gear for. STR could be passable on a fresh server if you're constantly encumbered and have no gear.
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Old 04-20-2023, 10:26 AM
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Hit points are useless. The difference between a 2000 point Cheal and a 1800 point cheal is a fraction of a percentage. You will never raid tank. And if you're pulling stuff where 250 hp at lvl 60 in BiS will make a difference you're doing it wrong. For most of your life that will be at best a 50 hp difference between you and an the guy who went all str.

Str for weak races before you can get any gear or buffs like if you are doing a solo self found challenge. Int for dumb races. Dex for vampiric embrace and procs for soloing. Agi for ogres and erudites.
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Old 03-15-2023, 11:31 PM
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I was trying not to post in every thread every day, but alas…lol.

Str = casual player
Stam = casual/semi regular raider
Intel = hardcore raider planning on socking a lot of really good gear
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Old 03-22-2023, 06:41 PM
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I was trying not to post in every thread every day, but alas…lol.

Str = casual player
Stam = casual/semi regular raider
Intel = hardcore raider planning on socking a lot of really good gear
This would be my vote as well.
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Old 03-16-2023, 07:40 AM
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Mana pool is like your car's gas tank. If you could increase your gas tank's size by 10%, how often would that actually help you? Probably almost never. You rarely drive on a full tank until you run out of gas and then needed more in order to do what you wanted to do. But the only time a bigger tank does anything at all is if you do exactly that, fill it up and drive until it's completely empty without ever stopping to refill. While there are hypothetical scenarios where that could happen, it's not exactly an everyday part of life.

How often are you in a situation where having like 200 extra maximum mana would have made an important difference? This is not a class that regularly dumps a full mana bar into a single fight and would still have benefitted meaningfully from even more mana. That's for clerics and wizards. SK spells are just too low-impact for this to matter. The difference between all starting points into INT or none at all is the equivalent of like one 300 HP lifetap. And it only actually matters when you started the encounter with full mana and spent it all in one go. It's not like a larger mana pool does anything in a fight where you started at 50%, or if you started at 100% and finished at 30%. It only does anything if you started with 100% and spent it all in one fight and having even more would have made a meaningful difference. That almost never happens for this class. It's for clerics and quad kiters.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:24 AM
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Well said Bockscar, So where do you think i would get the most out of this toon if say i never planned on raiding and it's just a casual fun alt to solo/group with, would it be into Str like snaggles suggested?
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Old 03-16-2023, 09:15 AM
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Well said Bockscar, So where do you think i would get the most out of this toon if say i never planned on raiding and it's just a casual fun alt to solo/group with, would it be into Str like snaggles suggested?
If you're completely certain that you're never going to do any endgame stuff, strength would help you the most. It's less about the damage and more about encumberance, because while there's lots of strength gear, the tradeable strength gear isn't normally well-suited for tanks because it doesn't have high AC or HP. If it's an erudite, you can't even wear small banded/bronze; so if you made an erudite SK and put no points in strength, a suit of bronze armor alone would basically put you at your weight limit.

If you do think that you might one day progress from casual alt to endgame character, stamina is the safer bet. It's a little bit overrated for hybrids since you're unlikely to be tanking actual raid bosses, but it's still the only stat that really affects how well you perform your job. By that point, you should have enough strength to not worry about encumberance, and none of the other stats besides stamina will have any impact whatsoever on how you perform as a tank.

Just remember to put five points into agility so it's 75.
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