Ranger Epic - It feels like a downgrade if I get my Epic

[Philistine]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So lower delay weapons benefit more from that bonus

Exactly. I think the formula a lot of folks use to compare 1hand Primary weapons at 60 something like this: (weapon damage x2 +damage bonus of 11)/weapon delay

So wurmslayer would be: (25x2+11)/40 = 1.525
And Earthcaller would be: (14*2+11)/24 = 1.625

Fun fact though! Guard Captain's Mallet: (11*2+11)/20 = 1.65. Not a had budget option to pair with Swiftwind imho!

[Crede]

I got it, and am happy with it for the stats/slow proc. Swapping in 2 weapons for Swarmcaller is annoying.

If you can get the ToV 2h though, I would just skip the epic entirely for an easy swap with Swarmcaller.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got it, and am happy with it for the stats/slow proc. Swapping in 2 weapons for Swarmcaller is annoying.

If you can get the ToV 2h though, I would just skip the epic entirely for an easy swap with Swarmcaller.

Which tov 2hander is being referenced here?

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can get the ToV 2h though, I would just skip the epic entirely for an easy swap with Swarmcaller.

Meljeldin, Bane of Giants?

That dropped for the guild last night.

Maybe in 5 years I could get it. If I played everyday.

[Ripqozko]

Earthcaller is pretty niche tho I rarely use it or used it while leveling, if you can afford a earthcaller just get a sboz for 1/5th the cost. Swiftwind is cheap asf and never replaced except good 2h build like cek sword. The bonus attack is worth more then the haste component.

Edit the slow component of earthcaller is nice but unless ya do specific low man with no shm or enc , you will lose dps to sboz or better mainhand.

[Ripqozko]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Meljeldin,_Bane_of_Giants

It’s what I use with hotswap to primal. Beats kriezen flame on 90% of targets not named kt and aow

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Meljeldin,_Bane_of_Giants

It’s what I use with hotswap to primal. Beats kriezen flame on 90% of targets not named kt and aow

Oh that is pretty tasty, yeah! What is an easily attainable haste for ranger when not using offhand/swiftwind?

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh that is pretty tasty, yeah! What is an easily attainable haste for ranger when not using offhand/swiftwind?

Modern raids maybe Yeli neck, Zlex or Dagarn belt, Yeli gaunts.

You can cap with a spiked seahorse and shiss. Leaving 25attack off the table though. The 2h is pretty good. I was using SCHW’s to finish up the raid and it was keeping up on with normal geared people at 88% haste.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh that is pretty tasty, yeah! What is an easily attainable haste for ranger when not using offhand/swiftwind?

If you have access to the sky cloak then CoF or Seahorse Belt will work fine. You will already be at 84% haste with that setup, and after 34% you only get half of the benefit of additional haste. The first 34% reduces the delay by half of the possible reduction, and the other 66% reduces the other half. For example, a weapon with 40 delay is reduced to 30 delay with 34% haste. 100% haste reduces the delay to 20.

[Snaggles]

Yea I didn’t level with my EC. I expect with it that would have been pretty fun.

I’ve said this before but swapping between slow setups is less of a dps loss for SW than it is for 2h. You are adding utility to a utility class with it. Absolutely nothing wrong with a swarmcaller though. I considered getting another today after just getting a Cek 2h.

2h Slow setup:
DW tash stick(s) (very low dps, not always needed)
Swap to Swarmcaller (low dps, two clicks)
Swap to dps weapon (one click)

DW slow setup:
DW or just primary tash stick (very low or just low dps)
Switch main to EC for slow (medium dps)
Switch main to DPS (one click)
Or…switch to BFG whenever and disc (HIGH dps)

If you are just one-clicking the DW gives more flexibility. If you are quick unlike me it’s not as horrid of a loss, just annoying.

DW setups also give some decent stats for pulling or tanking. Both epics is almost 200hps I recall. Swarm or most 2h’s are 0-50’ish.