Why did some EQ players dislike WoW?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ion Blaze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why did some EverQuest players dislike WoW when it came out

Honestly, most didn't. WoW was extremely popular among EQ players.

Originally Posted by Ion Blaze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How did WoW affect EQ’s playerbase?

It decimated it.

SOE had stopped publishing population numbers by that point (very likely because they knew how embarrassing they would be), but ... let me put it this way. WoW came out in November 2004, and just a few months later 18 servers closed.

So WoW destoryed EQ's population, but to be fair it wasn't all WoW's fault: SOE shot themselves in the foot with the EQ 2 release also.

[teai]

Everquest and WoW duking it out while little AC was chugging along unknown to the masses ;w;



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[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by teai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everquest and WoW duking it out while little AC was chugging along unknown to the masses ;w;



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Baler? Mblake? That you?

[Ghost of Starman]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So WoW destoryed EQ's population, but to be fair it wasn't all WoW's fault: SOE shot themselves in the foot with the EQ 2 release also.

Gates of Discord was an absolute disaster, and it was timed horribly for SOE since it came out a few months before WoW launched; they had tuned the expansion for players at level 70 but then didn't actually increase the level cap in a mind-bogglingly dumb maneuver, it was like releasing the Velious raid zones while leaving the level cap at 50, I was in a top 2 guild on my server and grinding that expansion was like slamming your head against a wall, I and over half my guild were pushed over the edge and quit within the first few weeks, just in time for the WoW launch.


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[mycoolrausch]

My friend and I had pretty similar taste in video games, but I had only dipped my toes in live EQ whereas he went full in and was in a hardcore raid guild by the time WoW was coming around.

When WoW came out I thought it was the answer to all our mmorpg prayers, but he wasn't impressed and barely touched it. I did get the feeling though that it was mostly because he had already put 10,000 hours into progress questing, and doing it again from scratch wasn't appealing, rather than any particular shortcomings of the game or superiority of everquest.

It's hard to say Vanilla WoW as it existed 2004-2007 wasn't an outright superior experience to 99% of everquest though. To me its only on replayability where it falls short. Once you've mastered the mechanics of WoW and the content, there's less depth and less variety compared to EQ. Its shorter, more condensed, and more on rails. But I don't think any of that was really a factor when you and everybody else was starting fresh and blind. It's hard to overstate its impact and how it was experienced compared to the competition.

[Raj]

Originally Posted by Ghost of Starman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gates of Discord was an absolute disaster, and it was timed horribly for SOE since it came out a few months before WoW launched; they had tuned the expansion for players at level 70 but then didn't actually increase the level cap in a mind-bogglingly dumb maneuver, it was like releasing the Velious raid zones while leaving the level cap at 50, I was in a top 2 guild on my server and grinding that expansion was like slamming your head against a wall, I and over half my guild were pushed over the edge and quit within the first few weeks, just in time for the WoW launch.


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[WokeCat]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly, most didn't. WoW was extremely popular among EQ players.



It decimated it.

SOE had stopped publishing population numbers by that point (very likely because they knew how embarrassing they would be), but ... let me put it this way. WoW came out in November 2004, and just a few months later 18 servers closed.

So WoW destoryed EQ's population, but to be fair it wasn't all WoW's fault: SOE shot themselves in the foot with the EQ 2 release also.

From my memory, I remember everyone on the forums really looking forward to EQ 2 and a lot of my friends quitting EQ in the months leading up to EQ 2 Launch.

I actually played WOW and EQ 2 at the same time, and I can honestly say that I preferred EQ 2 way more. The problem is, most of my friends didn't own computers that could even run EQ 2, and since WoW was so casual friendly, most of my friends were hooked on the game, so I found myself having to play WoW more just to play with them, even though I thought it was an inferior game at the time.

Like in EQ 2 it just felt like there was way more stuff to do, and that it had a lot more depth, the crafting system was really well done and I owned a mansion in the game, I did unique things like faction changes, farmed weird titles. WoW just felt really.... limited.

A lot of people don't remember this, but WOW Classic is not true the original state of the game. I remember hitting max level in WoW fairly early on and not having anything to do. The game felt really unfinished.

I've still been playing WoW off and on for 15+ years now, so I don't completely hate it, I just feel like it's a really dumbed down version of EQ. Whenever WoW Classic Launched and I played it and P99 back to back, I realized how much the two games had in common at one point. Something I didn't really think too much about in 2004 when the game launched.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by WokeCat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember hitting max level in WoW fairly early on and not having anything to do. The game felt really unfinished.

Now I forget, was the endgame of vanilla WoW blackrock mtn (LBRS, UBRS) or was molden core in the original launch?

Just checked and yea MC and Onyxia were in at launch. So that’s a decent end game, far more than many other more modern MMO’s launch with

The problem with MC was it was too large, requiring raiders to have to commit 3-6 hours on average depending on wipes of their time each run. And all the ridiculous amounts of trash pulls become incredibly boring once a guild had the raid on farm status

WoW raids had mechanics that EQ raids to my knowledge simply couldn’t match, though, in terms of complexity. But I wasn’t ever into raiding in EQ so I’m definitely not an authority on their raids

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by WokeCat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is, most of my friends didn't own computers that could even run EQ 2, and since WoW was so casual friendly

Took out a bank loan for my EQ computer. WoW was for pawnshop laptop players. I would never have taken a loan out for WoW. It was developed before Windows Vista, so it has that going for it at least.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Ion Blaze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just trying to understand for academic purposes. Please keep this mature.

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Emperor Ferdinand the First wuffered from hydrowephaly, which is water on the brain, which Freddie Mercury was suspected to have had and that is what really killed him (that and no common sense, nothing left to believe in).



He is famous for a few things, but one of them is, during the 1848 Revolution he asked his trusted advisor / drool mopper Prince Metternich, why people were marching on his Palace, and Metternich replied dryly, "they are overthrowing the government," to which the unfortunate Ferdinand replied, "Ja, aber durfen's denn des?"


So that's academic. As to requesting maturity, I would ask the mods, if that is possible?