Haste and Dual Wield question

[Motec]

You're still fixated on haste decreasing delay.

think of haste as increasing damage. Ignore the spam. Every % is a % of damage.

Your dps, aggro etc will scale in linear proportion to haste percentage. Your delay is irrelevant except for getting munched by DS's

[Rejuvenation]

More attacks per few seconds is equivalent to a lower delay...it just depends on the frame of time you are going by, nobody is wrong. 20% haste isn't 20% delay reduction is what you are trying to say.

The game truncates delay values. An equivalent delay of 14.49 is 14, while a delay of 14.51 is 15. This is where larger delay weapons would benefit more from haste than a low delay weapon as each percentage of haste will be more significant.

[Kika Maslyaka]

ummm

so you have 100 dly weapon and 100% haste
by all logical conclusions your new delay should be 50 (or 1/2 reduction)
which atches 100/(1+1) formula

if haste is 50%, following same logic as above your new dealy should be 75 (or 1/4 reduction)

but per formula 100/(1+0.5) = 66.6(6)

why doesn't math match? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[soup]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ummm

so you have 100 dly weapon and 100% haste
by all logical conclusions your new delay should be 50 (or 1/2 reduction)
which atches 100/(1+1) formula

if haste is 50%, following same logic as above your new dealy should be 75 (or 1/4 reduction)

but per formula 100/(1+0.5) = 66.6(6)

why doesn't math match? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you had 100 delay, the time it would take to do 100 attacks would be 10,000 units of delay. If you had 50% haste, that means you would do 150 attacks in that same time. 10,000/150=66.666...

The math adds up just fine.

To take 100 delay to 75 delay you would need 33.333...% haste. 100/1.333...= 75

The logic you're trying to apply doesn't work. Think about it, according to the logic you tried to use, 200% haste would be 0 delay, but unless you'e increasing the amount of attacks you get in a period of time by infinite percent, you wont get 0 delay.

[Kika Maslyaka]

ok i got it now - you right, i have to look at it in number of attacks, cause 0 delay in fact is ridiculus =)
it just happens to be that for perfect 100 dly and 100% haste the number matches =)

thanks! this has been bugging me since year 2000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
i was given formula but never explain how the formula was derived