Wurmslayer Nerf - Clarification

[Lucia Moonglow]

Actually, what I meant was that the devs should not pointedly avoid telling us in the hopes of seeming more "classic". If they can't get around to it, then they can't and that's fine. I'm only saying that it would be nice if they didn't intentionally put it off just to try and be more like Verant.

[Sethius]

Originally Posted by Lucia Moonglow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, what I meant was that the devs should not pointedly avoid telling us in the hopes of seeming more "classic". If they can't get around to it, then they can't and that's fine. I'm only saying that it would be nice if they didn't intentionally put it off just to try and be more like Verant.

They might be able to get around to it, who knows, I certainly don't. I don't think they avoid helping us and informing us to seem more classic at all either. They seem very talkative about issues and bugs and changes imo, a godzillian times more than any paid mmo I've played.

Re-read your post, you can probably see how I didn't make the connection to what you are saying here in this post. They have little semblance to one another, but often times our thoughts are not expressed wholly in our words, and I can appreciate that. Regardless, I think your point here is sound but my belief is you have nothing to fear. They are certainly doing their best. Perhaps one will even stop by and fill in the details on the wurmslayer. I'm sure they won't avoid it on purpose.

[Lucia Moonglow]

The issue is that I'm thinking of buying a second one to dual wield while the getting's still good, as it were, and sell it or twink another character with it once it goes Primary only. However, items have a nasty habit of poofing if they suddenly become lore, and while the Wurmslayer was never lore on live, the rumors are unnerving.

[Dantes]

Who cares if it poofs, it'll be worthless after the nerf anyway.

[Doors]

I don't think it would be a bad thing to get GM clarification on a popular weapon like this one.

[Lucia Moonglow]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who cares if it poofs, it'll be worthless after the nerf anyway.

Even in the primary hand, the damage/delay ratio on a Wurmslayer makes it a powerful mainhand. A lot of the negative stigma attached to the weapon was based on the false belief that your offhand only has a chance to swing when your main hand does. This is false. It is also based off of the idea that fast weapons mean more agro for warriors, when it's simply damage output that makes this determination, as I've seen by consistently pulling agro off of warriors while using the Wurmslayer myself.

The Wurmslayer has a DPS ratio of 1.6, which is better than a lot of weapons until the higher levels where the main hand damage bonus starts to make faster weapons more effective.

Just because a weapon is slow doesn't mean it's worthless.

It should also be noted that even at level 60, the damage bonus does not add a significant amount of DPS. The main hand damage bonus at 60 is 11. This means that with a 20 delay weapon, your main hand damage bonus would add 6.5 DPS, while with a 40 delay weapon the increase would be 3.25. In other words, a wurmslayer's high delay will account for, at best, a 4-point base DPS difference, since few weapons in the Kunark era have a delay lower than 18.

The math is solid, and the fact remains that regardless of how slow it is, the Wurmslayer is still one of the best tradable 1HS weapons in the game (excluding knight-only ones) even for main hand use.

The only detriment it will suffer when nerfed is the inability to dual wield them, which is the real reason they were nerfed in the first place.

[Envious]

Originally Posted by Lucia Moonglow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even in the primary hand, the damage/delay ratio on a Wurmslayer makes it a powerful mainhand. A lot of the negative stigma attached to the weapon was based on the false belief that your offhand only has a chance to swing when your main hand does. This is false. It is also based off of the idea that fast weapons mean more agro for warriors, when it's simply damage output that makes this determination, as I've seen by consistently pulling agro off of warriors while using the Wurmslayer myself

I dont know what your real point is, and dont care. Warrior aggro is so shit fuck broke that you should not use it as a point in any sentence other than "Fix warrior aggro".

Oh right, you bought 2 of these for some reason to DW knowing that a "Lore" nerf was coming, and now you want a heads up to warn you about the nerf so you dont have to deal with ramifications of the decision that you made.

[Lucia Moonglow]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont know what your real point is, and dont care.

Ouch, that says a lot for your reading comprehension. My point is that the Wurmslayer won't be rendered worthless after the primary-only nerf. That was pretty clear, actually...how did you not get that?

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warrior aggro is so shit fuck broke that you should not use it as a point in any sentence other than "Fix warrior aggro".

I agree that warrior agro is broke, but welcome to classic EQ. It was broken until the Blade of Carnage in Velious, and even then wasn't truly fixed until warriors gained the Incite line of abilities during either Luclin or PoP. I think they should forego "classic authenticity" and fix it, just like I think they should remove the hybrid penalty because let's face it, it was there in classic, but it's not responsible for the "classic feel", nor is it justified. Even Verant admitted that.

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh right, you bought 2 of these for some reason to DW knowing that a "Lore" nerf was coming, and now you want a heads up to warn you about the nerf so you dont have to deal with ramifications of the decision that you made.

Oooh, aggressive and for no reason! Nice.

Again, reading comprehension is your friend. I said it would be nice if they gave a heads up to the primary only change, but if you actually read my post, you'll see that my real concern is actually the rumors that they're going to become Lore Items because on live this never happened. Also, I didn't buy them "knowing that a "Lore" nerf was coming". Again, I fail to see where you even see that. What I said was they are rumors.

There's no need to get hostile, especially when you don't even know what you're raging about. The "Rants, Flames, and NSFW" forum is that way.

[Poeshoe]

i just wanted to log on and say sethius you seem like a huge d-bag. why dont you grow up asshat. Also, i feel the wurmy would be useless after the nerf, with the exception of one or two class builds.

[Lucia Moonglow]

Originally Posted by Poeshoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i just wanted to log on and say sethius you seem like a huge d-bag. why dont you grow up asshat. Also, i feel the wurmy would be useless after the nerf, with the exception of one or two class builds.

I would love to know how you think it would be useless.

No, that's not sarcasm or antagonism, I am honestly curious to know what would be better since I currently plan to use one in my main hand even after the nerf.