Verant Logic: Necromancer vs Magician

[Penish]

Originally Posted by mycoolrausch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least the mage epic is easy to get to make up for all their shortfalls

/thread, lol

[Zsin]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've played Mage to 60 after being a Necro fanboy and you're just wrong. Mage sucks ass compared to Necro in basically every way other than COTH.

I think Verant's mistake was that they had a "class advocate" or some kind of bullshit like that for each class and these people ended up in product meetings basically yelling about how their class needed more or less stuff. Each class ended up as it did solely based on this one person's ability to convince others within Verant. Probably Joe Cool, Necro advocate, was fucking the product manager and Neckbeard Ned, Mage advocate, was constantly talked over in meetings or was too dumb to even understand how underpowered their class was.

Not only that but I bet Necro which was insanely overpowered and got nerfed in classic then ended up with the ability to say "we got nerfed, what are we going to give Necro players to make them feel better?" And Mages it was more like, "Everything looks good. Fuck em."

This also explains why Ranger was always such a horrible joke. The advocate was probably Brad himself, Aradune, and he never even played EQ and was just snorting coke and nerfing anything he didn't like that was being reported to him as allowing players to progress too quickly thus upsetting his Sony bosses. Ranger sucks ass, can't do shit? Sounds fucking great, they'll be paying their subscription fees forever. What?!?! Necros are soloing in PoF? Damn it they'll be bored in a couple weeks and cancel, fucking nerf that shit.

This post was a work of poetry.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Zsin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This post was a work of poetry.

Ya that was a good post.

[derpcake2]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've played Mage to 60 after being a Necro fanboy and you're just wrong. Mage sucks ass compared to Necro in basically every way other than COTH.

I think Verant's mistake was that they had a "class advocate" or some kind of bullshit like that for each class and these people ended up in product meetings basically yelling about how their class needed more or less stuff. Each class ended up as it did solely based on this one person's ability to convince others within Verant. Probably Joe Cool, Necro advocate, was fucking the product manager and Neckbeard Ned, Mage advocate, was constantly talked over in meetings or was too dumb to even understand how underpowered their class was.

Not only that but I bet Necro which was insanely overpowered and got nerfed in classic then ended up with the ability to say "we got nerfed, what are we going to give Necro players to make them feel better?" And Mages it was more like, "Everything looks good. Fuck em."

This also explains why Ranger was always such a horrible joke. The advocate was probably Brad himself, Aradune, and he never even played EQ and was just snorting coke and nerfing anything he didn't like that was being reported to him as allowing players to progress too quickly thus upsetting his Sony bosses. Ranger sucks ass, can't do shit? Sounds fucking great, they'll be paying their subscription fees forever. What?!?! Necros are soloing in PoF? Damn it they'll be bored in a couple weeks and cancel, fucking nerf that shit.

This 100%, and to top it off p1999 has the exact same problems.

Can't even chain pets on p1999 since agro doesn't get transferred properly.

Nothing gets done, there just aren't enough people / the right people lobbying.

Its like the 51+ pets requiring an extra level to mem them. They had no problem nerfing mage pets dps, while leaving this broken from pretty much green launch until literally yesterday.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by derpcake2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This 100%, and to top it off p1999 has the exact same problems.

Can't even chain pets on p1999 since agro doesn't get transferred properly.

Nothing gets done, there just aren't enough people / the right people lobbying.

Its like the 51+ pets requiring an extra level to mem them. They had no problem nerfing mage pets dps, while leaving this broken from pretty much green launch until literally yesterday.

Maybe it's not some conspiracy of the devs to screw your class over?

Maybe it has something to do with volunteer players (like yourself) taking time out of their day to find evidence on old websites about how classic EQ works, and then submitting it to the devs, who then (when time allows, as this is 100% a volunteer exercise for them) fixes it.

And if I'm right about the above ... all you have to do is stop complaining, and start researching, to fix things [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe it has something to do with volunteer players (like yourself) taking time out of their day to find evidence on old websites about how classic EQ works, and then submitting it to the devs, who then (when time allows, as this is 100% a volunteer exercise for them) fixes it

Thanks to Nilbog and devs for helping entertain me with their creation while I'm stuck at home bored for a week recovering from surgery

Also, let's not nerf enchanters/charm now that I've sunk over 8k into mine over the past week


Yes consider this a bribe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy never played a mage past 20, its pretty much balanced between mage and necro. Necros trade off any fast dps for utility. In group settings mages offer higher sustained dps and utility, while necros are a jack of all - master of none. six of one half dozen of other.

Mod Rods
Call of the Hero
Summoned Utility like staff of runes, ring of flight
Self Regen
Pet heals
best DS
2nd best nukes/pbae
eye of zomm
strongest pets
Malo

lol k whatever you gotta tell yourself

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy never played a mage past 20, its pretty much balanced between mage and necro. Necros trade off any fast dps for utility. In group settings mages offer higher sustained dps and utility, while necros are a jack of all - master of none. six of one half dozen of other.

Mod Rods
Call of the Hero
Summoned Utility like staff of runes, ring of flight
Self Regen
Pet heals
best DS
2nd best nukes/pbae
eye of zomm
strongest pets
Malo

No Necros are pretty much superior past 20 as well.

[Jimjam]

Don't forget it is a massive ball ache to even get some pet spell scrolls from 20+ in the release iteration of vanilla for magician!

[Trexller]

wtb words of duress