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Old 07-06-2021, 04:29 AM
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It's all just so ... unclassic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(For the record, I supported /list 1.0 originally, but NO ONE remembers twenty-odd person days-long lines for ANYTHING on live. We just need a 2.0 version that trades 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. places in line for a random chance for anyone on list to become #2. On live, good loot was always about patience and luck, and the same should be true here.)
You're not fooling anyone. Always posting about what's better for the server or classic or the collective when it's just to benefit yourself
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Old 07-06-2021, 10:50 AM
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You're not fooling anyone. Always posting about what's better for the server or classic or the collective when it's just to benefit yourself
A duplicitous guise indeed. It would be one thing if his posts were backed up by something other than 20 years old anecdotal memories.
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Old 07-06-2021, 10:53 AM
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You're not fooling anyone. Always posting about what's better for the server or classic or the collective when it's just to benefit yourself
So, if I plan to play an Enchanter AND a Necro someday, how does arguing for charm to be more classic help me?
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Old 07-10-2021, 11:47 AM
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It's all just so ... unclassic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(For the record, I supported /list 1.0 originally, but NO ONE remembers twenty-odd person days-long lines for ANYTHING on live. We just need a 2.0 version that trades 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. places in line for a random chance for anyone on list to become #2. On live, good loot was always about patience and luck, and the same should be true here.)
I have to agree. With skepticism (and some constructive criticism after playing them), I accepted the original /list system because of its need to automate what would otherwise be an untenable situation for GMs to maintain. I had hoped that some of the drawbacks would eventually get worked out later on.

The AFK checks on multi-day camp are atrocious and, honestly, unhealthy designed play. (If you can really call it "play" at all.)

There is no chance of the RNG rewarding a casual player (casual is anyone who can't sit for two days waiting for their turn --- not exaggerating). In classic EQ there is a chance that such a player gets rewarded. If it takes an average statistical player 100 hundred hours to farm an item, he should be able to break that commitment up (10 hours here --- so casual, 10 hours there, a few hours here, etc.) and, in the aggregate, commit enough time to eventually let the RNG give him his reward. Those players are shit out of luck with this system --- and, in my opinion, it is more than a small demographic.

I understand the need for creating an in-game system to somehow deal with this stuff, but I feel like there are better solutions that we should find in the future compared to the current iteration of /list.
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Old 07-11-2021, 08:50 AM
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It's all just so ... unclassic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(For the record, I supported /list 1.0 originally, but NO ONE remembers twenty-odd person days-long lines for ANYTHING on live. We just need a 2.0 version that trades 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. places in line for a random chance for anyone on list to become #2. On live, good loot was always about patience and luck, and the same should be true here.)
And you were told at the time that your simping for the developers was wrong, as usual. List was a terrible idea, completely unclassic and just kowtowing to carebears. As a long standing veteran, you should have rallied the community to challenge it before the server launched. But oh wait, they smuggled in the server, by announcing it mere months before it went live (with no beta testing or community discussion to be had)...

Lists is also a shortcut to reducing guide work, since they were low on guides (and we know why that happens...) and did not want to do the leg work/dealing with tickets

All the custom nonsense made things way more complicated, just like the raid scene.
Remember R and C rotations ? Give me a break

Green was a chance to do it right for once, after the excessive mistakes done on blue
And yet..

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Old 07-03-2021, 09:09 PM
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Hehehe. Lists.

Still no better solution. IP adress, random to anyone on list, etc. etc. All stupidly bad ideas with endless threads bickering over it.

Only the original list stands as the least worst idea.

And still.... Lists...You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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Old 07-04-2021, 07:40 AM
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Hehehe. Lists.

Still no better solution. IP adress, random to anyone on list, etc. etc. All stupidly bad ideas with endless threads bickering over it.

Only the original list stands as the least worst idea.

And still.... Lists...You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Go away. You’ve made your ill-informed opinion clear on this matter enough times already. We know that you have no qualms with staying up or account sharing with someone for multiple days on end to get X listed item. I don’t know if I should be happy or sad for you.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:02 AM
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Go away. You’ve made your ill-informed opinion clear on this matter enough times already. We know that you have no qualms with staying up or account sharing with someone for multiple days on end to get X listed item. I don’t know if I should be happy or sad for you.
hes not about screensharing .

just massive botting . there have been a lot of talk about it during the mana stone days

right now prbly running his 50 necro bots to WL
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Old 07-04-2021, 10:54 AM
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i told you dawg, i warned you about not just making legacy items really common bro
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Old 07-04-2021, 11:47 AM
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They should have had the nerfed version dropping from the start. But that would put a dent in the HotPocket Corp profits.
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