Melee Worthlessness - The Biggest Balance Problem There Is

[rewinder47]

"No one on the planet is going to party with hybrids"

Not only is this untrue, but you're a dick if you think this way. Plenty of people play as, and group with, hybrids because the game is about having fun and playing what you like.

Your whole post is basically whining and complaining that you can't play as a melee because it's not perfect statistical min/maxing. I wonder if you even get any enjoyment out of the game when you worry so much about perfect effectiveness. Maybe you should play something else

[Snortles Chortles]

if i ever saw a tank LFG i would take one
good thing i can charm
(LOL)

[Videri]

OP, tanks are not for doing damage. They are for taking hits, and hopefully pulling.

Player tanks are valuable. Those all-powerful casters want someone to go pull so they don't have to stand up. Just make sure to have a bow and some arrows and fletching materials.

Pets are not always a sufficient replacement for tank players. Players can pull intelligently; for example, try to get singles, warn of multiple mobs incoming, die away from camp instead of training the pet master.

There is a tank shortage right now in the 50+ range. When I log in my useless potato warrior, I instantly get a group. Is it the same at lower levels?

Furthermore, in my opinion, warriors are a guild class. You need a guild because a guild needs you. A guild with any sense will support and enable their warriors.

[apprentice04]

maybe its time for my 53 paladin to return to the hole

[Videri]

Originally Posted by apprentice04 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe its time for my 53 paladin to return to the hole

You will have group invites as soon as you log in. Maybe even before you log in.

[A Knight]

I hate to sound like a broken record.

If everything is fair and balanced then you take away from the feel of a real world. Then everything is bland and equal. Everything would feel like Wow where it may look like a world but it doesn't feel it.

As long as everything is relatively equal at high level. Plus or minus some concerns like rangers. I'm also from pvp though so hybrids have a job.

[Gustoo]

Yeah just turn on red and see what class you want to be when you're pegged at max level and gear.

There are tradeoffs thats why the game is actually fun.

[Jibartik]

I hate to say that I think wow fixed melee by taking disciplines and expanding them to basically be "melee spell lines" and using stamina instead of mana to cast them.

[A Knight]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hate to say that I think wow fixed melee by taking disciplines and expanding them to basically be "melee spell lines" and using stamina instead of mana to cast them.

Don't get me wrong I think a Wow like game could be fun sometimes. Where lets say all melee start with bronze and some decent weapon like dragoon dirk.

I hope Pantheon is a good cross between a Wow-like and EQ like game. There might even be a game out there already like that but I haven't found it yet.

But also 80 percent of the time I'd rather play classic EQ or a classic EQ like game.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hate to say that I think wow fixed melee by taking disciplines and expanding them to basically be "melee spell lines" and using stamina instead of mana to cast them.

Which EQ (attempted to) pioneer with the addition of AAs in Luclin.