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Old 03-20-2021, 11:37 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semico...ce_fabrication

If you look to the right, Semiconductor device fabrication you can actually see the computer power advancement over the years. Looks like they are still shrinking it down somehow. The lower the number, the more powerful the computing power btw.
Nm = nanometers
2020 they hit 5nm.
Everytime the Semiconductor manufacturers move to a smaller silicon wafer they have to shut their plants down for like 3-4 months, spend billions of dollars to re-tool for smaller transistors. So they have to do it incrementally or they would lose money.
I'm sure they could immediately go smaller but they have to weigh the costs of doing so. Soon they will have to invent new computers when they hit the physical limit for traditional transistors in order to keep increasing computing power. Like quantum computers, or something along those lines.
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We already have quantum computation.

Someone did Bells experiment with quantum entanglement using two quasars on a cosmic scale for randomness, so we are fairly sure, like >90%< reasonably sure spooky action at a distance is a thing. This isn't computational but really strongly affirms QM as a usable model.

China is heavily invested in quantum security. Crypto. Even launching sats with the tech.

Googles funputers are public knowledge. So we are past the theoretical stage.

Trust me world leaders are more interested in quantumly simulated sex simulators than ensuring the underclasses can feed themselves reliably and safely.

You'll get ur qbits.
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Will ever start designing games and hardware with a 20 year minimum lifespan in mind?
Doubtful, unless a resource shortage continues and no solutions occur, AND the big players handshake on slowing rollouts to like every 5-10 years instead of once a year. This would cripple many of the manufacturing and third party vendors that need constant rollout and then the parasitic relationship they hold with game designers who need to push the envelope on graphic requirements so people feel compelled to upgrade their systems more often to experience the latest and greatest in high res.

That being said console systems operate much more closely to this philosophy: major new system, minor upgraded "pro" versions down the line, new console comes out...3-7 years later?

Basically what your asking for is not anywhere in the foreseeable future from an economic and industry dependence standpoint, too much money is on the line in the hardware industry.
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Doubtful, unless a resource shortage continues and no solutions occur, AND the big players handshake on slowing rollouts to like every 5-10 years instead of once a year. This would cripple many of the manufacturing and third party vendors that need constant rollout and then the parasitic relationship they hold with game designers who need to push the envelope on graphic requirements so people feel compelled to upgrade their systems more often to experience the latest and greatest in high res.

That being said console systems operate much more closely to this philosophy: major new system, minor upgraded "pro" versions down the line, new console comes out...3-7 years later?

Basically what your asking for is not anywhere in the foreseeable future from an economic and industry dependence standpoint, too much money is on the line in the hardware industry.
Yeah I agree.

Unless hobbyists can maybe fill the void. Or gain the ability to make their own hardware and then compete on quality. Openness. Modability.

I think.

The factory that rolls out graphics cards are worth billions right now and cost millions to retool I think. I thought $10 million was a lot of momentum in 04, oh how silly I was.

I wonder if someone could make a hobby version. My brother does a lot of programmable IC stuff and board design. He can wind up paying a good amount to prototype some stuff. It used to be like $300-800 a decade ago.

I smell a potential market niche.
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Old 03-20-2021, 01:28 PM
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Will ever start designing games and hardware with a 20 year minimum lifespan in mind?
star citizen probably is already.
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star citizen probably is already.
I feel like the level of accuracy of AI targeting systems in most far future scenarios precludes really tactical deployment and combat will simply be about ranging our opponents and striking first, strategically, maybe using assets as shields or decoys. And stealth systems.

No one's going to draw their ship up broadside and slow down in space. Or try to dogfight when they can kill you at 100,000km.

Hopefully the trading system is deep.
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Old 03-20-2021, 01:41 PM
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Imagine if in the future we find out space is too hostile for us to travel in, so as a work around we build a virtual world to live in that is so realistic that traveling in it would be like traveling in real space and we could explore it freely.. but the mistake we made is that the virtual world was so realistic, that we forgot it was virtual and here we are killing each other over politics and we'll wake up in our VR helmets after we die and go, lol whops!
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Aren't there at least a few levels to reality to keep the plebes from pulling the plug after getting owned?

Why build a sim with both QM and general relativity? What does QM add?
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Aren't there at least a few levels to reality to keep the plebes from pulling the plug after getting owned?

Why build a sim with both QM and general relativity? What does QM add?
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