RAID SUSPENSION RESOLUTIONS

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id honestly love to see a hybrid rotation system, similar to what Fammaden suggested.

But moreover, crying wolf punishments need to be real, and have teeth. If I file a petition against guild A, for violating a rule, and it turns out they didn't violate that rule, my guild should get a one week suspension, simple as that. I feel it wouod take a lot of the petty raid crap off the table, because it wouldn't be worth being wrong. As of now, filing a false/wrong/petty petition has no consequence.

I want to see a count of the number of petitions filed by each guild over the last month or two. Let's put it in real perspective.

Petitionquest is a major factor in what got us here, adding more conditions on petitionquest doesn't seem like a reasonable path back out. Everything you try to do can and will be manipulated by the human actors involved in the system. Continuing to complicate the ramifications of petitioning doesn't create a less toxic atmosphere IMO.

[supercalif]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id honestly love to see a hybrid rotation system, similar to what Fammaden suggested.

But moreover, crying wolf punishments need to be real, and have teeth. If I file a petition against guild A, for violating a rule, and it turns out they didn't violate that rule, my guild should get a one week suspension, simple as that. I feel it wouod take a lot of the petty raid crap off the table, because it wouldn't be worth being wrong. As of now, filing a false/wrong/petty petition has no consequence.

I want to see a count of the number of petitions filed by each guild over the last month or two. Let's put it in real perspective.

I agree with this, similar to sports you get charged a timeout for a challenge if it doesn’t get overturned.

[Grumph]

How about treating this more like The Street

... I mean street basketball. Like on And-1 dawgs!

Where you call your own fouls.

If I say you fouled me - you fouled me.

But I don’t have read access to the UN - so what do I know?

[Zipity]

Race for FTE, whoever gets yellow text, their guild has 1.5hr to kill that mob uncontested. Racers must die or flop to not train after FTE. You cannot FTE anything new until your mob is dead or time expires. If FTE is on vulak and a lord/lady spawns timer instantly resets. Rotate tunare and ringwar. This keeps it competitive and would drastically cut CSR involvement.

[gamarun]

Originally Posted by Zipity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Race for FTE, whoever gets yellow text, their guild has 1.5hr to kill that mob uncontested. Racers must die or flop to not train after FTE. You cannot FTE anything new until your mob is dead or time expires. If FTE is on vulak and a lord/lady spawns timer instantly resets. Rotate tunare and ringwar. This keeps it competitive and would drastically cut CSR involvement.

Successful petitions = 1 week raid suspension from all content.

Do this and a failed petition = 1 week raid suspension from all raid content. Stops petitions in their tracks unless its absolutely clear (in which case it will probably be resolved on its own)

[saftbudet]

Originally Posted by gamarun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Successful petitions = 1 week raid suspension from all content.

Do this and a failed petition = 1 week raid suspension from all raid content. Stops petitions in their tracks unless its absolutely clear (in which case it will probably be resolved on its own)

Sounds good, GMs kinda brought this on themself, by not issuing harder penalties. Some guilds does not fear the ruling of GMs, because the punishments are so soft.

[saftbudet]

Like if a new FTE goes out on Vulak Aerr, mid fight .... the guild killing him, should be so afraid of the punishment and imedietly dropping it.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by saftbudet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like if a new FTE goes out on Vulak Aerr, mid fight .... the guild killing him, should be so afraid of the punishment and imedietly dropping it.

Why? With the current meta, kiting his guards, and mem blurring any that go back to the raid. Sometimes the chatners single target memblur is refreshing, so they use the AoE, and its possible to get a memblur on vulak, wihich would generate a new fte, but nowhere in the rules does it say you cant memblur your own mob..... So why should this be a punishable thing?

[sedrie.bellamie]

max 60 person engage on any mob, anyone past the 60th person gets banished to zone line of the next zone (ala naggy/vox)

stop 200 people zerg guilds

if 60 is not enough for AOW, the max guilds at 80 person on engage

break up the zergs like Ronald Regan

expansion draft like the NBA

zipity/wallicker is like 2000s Gerald Wallace (all upside but will never reach his potential)

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by sedrie.bellamie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

max 60 person engage on any mob, anyone past the 60th person gets banished to zone line of the next zone (ala naggy/vox)

stop 200 people zerg guilds

if 60 is not enough for AOW, the max guilds at 80 person on engage

break up the zergs like Ronald Regan

expansion draft like the NBA

zipity/wallicker is like 2000s Gerald Wallace (all upside but will never reach his potential)

Alot of the ability to get small number kills went out the window with the rooted dragons and the push change, the recharge change as a result of green didnt help either. It simply just requires more people than it used to for a lot of encounters.