Game Mechanics: 1 grouping Klandicar

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by ylarik24 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bump Captain is full immune to spells can not even dispell him but you can dictate him.

Please be more careful that the information you contribute to the bug forum is correct. As pointed out in the sticky, staff wastes a lot of time on poorly researched and incorrect information.

Captain isn't immune to anything. He's highly resistant to cold and magic.

[Fri Feb 28 21:28:35 2020] A Kromzek Captain is consumed by the flames of the sun. (fire)
[Sun Sep 13 14:35:10 2020] A Kromzek Captain has been poisoned. (poison)
[Wed Sep 30 16:20:30 2020] A Kromzek Captain's skin freezes. (cold)
[Sun Sep 13 14:34:41 2020] A Kromzek Captain's skin erupts in purulent pock marks. (disease)
[Tue Mar 10 02:24:27 2020] A Kromzek Captain feels dispelled. (unresistable)
And dictate lands as already mentioned. (magic)

As far as I can find, this is consistent with live since there are Luclin era posts that reference difficulty but success slowing him with tash (possible they meant disease slowed but they did mention tash, might be worth testing dictate or theft of thought on a live server), e.g.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...02630463086872

Interestingly, using the giants from the quest to kill WW dragons was done in-era. They had to add a respawn timer to the quest (or fix some other issue?) because people were spawning multiple waves to throw at Sontalak.

Originally Posted by Mawegda Sat, Apr 28th 7:24 AM 2001

People were spawning more and more Giants and training them on Sontalak....

https://web.archive.org/web/20021107...=1255&start=75

Seems like confirmed classic to me.

[Beatnix]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please be more careful that the information you contribute to the bug forum is correct. As pointed out in the sticky, staff wastes a lot of time on poorly researched and incorrect information.

Captain isn't immune to anything. He's highly resistant to cold and magic.

[Fri Feb 28 21:28:35 2020] A Kromzek Captain is consumed by the flames of the sun. (fire)
[Sun Sep 13 14:35:10 2020] A Kromzek Captain has been poisoned. (poison)
[Wed Sep 30 16:20:30 2020] A Kromzek Captain's skin freezes. (cold)
[Sun Sep 13 14:34:41 2020] A Kromzek Captain's skin erupts in purulent pock marks. (disease)
[Tue Mar 10 02:24:27 2020] A Kromzek Captain feels dispelled. (unresistable)
And dictate lands as already mentioned. (magic)

As far as I can find, this is consistent with live since there are Luclin era posts that reference difficulty but success slowing him with tash (possible they meant disease slowed but they did mention tash, might be worth testing dictate or theft of thought on a live server), e.g.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...02630463086872

Interestingly, using the giants from the quest to kill WW dragons was done in-era. They had to add a respawn timer to the quest (or fix some other issue?) because people were spawning multiple waves to throw at Sontalak.



https://web.archive.org/web/20021107...=1255&start=75

Seems like confirmed classic to me.

People spawning more and more giants is not the same as landing charm on Captain. He is not charmable on live. I have yet to find any evidence that shows he was ever charmable.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Beatnix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He is not charmable on live.

You've tested this?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Beatnix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He is not charmable on live.

Can you provide evidence/research for this?

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you provide evidence/research for this?

My research suggests that Captain was most likely flagged charm immune by the 08/13/2019 patch which made Velious "rare" mobs immune to charm because people were holding them hostage and trying to sell loot rights. I can't find any indication that the flag is era-appropriate for p99.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...ussions.259101

Originally Posted by EQ Dev

- Made 1,052 NPCs immune to charm. These are "rare" NPCs and those with very long respawn times.

Originally Posted by Absor (Developer)

All rares in modern content are set to be non charmable. There is no reason not to apply those standards to the entire game.

[ylarik24]

Thanks for the link
RE: Typical Reply... By: syldane, Scholar
103 posts
Posted @ Tue, May 8th 12:35 PM 2001 Score: Good[3.50]
Yeah, I'm sure you've read by now what the exploit was: spawning the giants so they could train dragons to them, or the giants to the dragons for the purpose of getting cheap dragon kills.

Personally, in the cases of these exploits I think they should put a line of text to the player when they turn in an item, that to use this in a way other than to do the quest is a bannable exploit. You catch someone doing it, they cannot say they didn't know, they are banned or at least suspended for a month. Keep an eye on the area for a while, ban a few people and word would get around not to do it. I'd rather them do it this way than nerf a good quest for the rest of us.

BTW, you might could do this giant with a small group by using snare and run tactics like we've used on the Garadain's Rings quests. You have a group of giants with one named in the middle, snare or root the named one, the rest chase you madly away, leaving the named alone. the rest take him down fairly easily while you entertain the rest. Zone when the named is down, come back to loot. All too easy, unless the named is highly MR.

[ylarik24]

Yes we have tested it. Also it looks like they considered training the giants on to dragons a exploit .

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by ylarik24 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes we have tested it

Originally Posted by Kirdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're going to need to provide some kind of evidence if you want something changed

Originally Posted by ylarik24 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also it looks like they considered training the giants on to dragons a exploit .

Who? SOE only ever changed the quest so you couldn't spawn multiple giant waves.

[ylarik24]

bump

[Tune]

Giants need to have factions completely removed and scowl to every1

Captain needs to be made uncharmable

This is redic