Most Iconic Classic Races for Each Class

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Barbarians and Dwarves shouldn't even have Rogue as one of their class choices. It's not in their cultures to be shady loners, and they definitely are not what I think of when a sneaky, stealthy, nimble person comes to mind.



I don't agree with the part about it seeming odd for humans to be religious; they do it because they feel like it makes them more important. Whereas a race like Dwarves, there's little special status to be gained, people don't much care if you've chosen that path. I don't think Dwarves care as much about expanding their religion and going to war for it either, they are preoccupied with living underground and their specific way of life, and mainly want to protect their territory.

Dwarfs are interesting... their rogues guild forbids crime in Kaladim, so instead they embezzle, extort and defraud their closest allies, such as Akanon (see quest ‘The Take’).

Personally, I don’t think the miners guild works as a concept for dwarf rogues. I think the cover for a dwarf rogue guild would be some kind of loophole lawyer firm.

[Bigsham]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See you in thurgadin!.

[uygi]

Back in the day on Live, my first thoughts would have been:

Enchanter: HIE
Magician: DEF... just because I played one on SZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Necromancer: ERU or DEF
Wizard: I don't have a strong association here, DEF, ERU or GNM
Cleric: Again no stand out from classic, DWF or HIE probably
Druid: ELF for sure, HFL very secondary
Shaman: BAR by a long shot... most players felt that "evil" was a serious disadvantage
Bard: HUM
Monk: HUM... nobody had any idea we'd be playing Iksars or that they'd be vastly superior monks, and almost no players were min/maxing then anyways.
Ranger: ELF by a lot, probably HUM second and HEF last
Rogue: BAR and HFL; BAR for the STR and HFL cus Bilbo.
Paladin: DWF, with HUM and HIE not too far off
Shadow Knight: DEF was the classic choice, though people that understood stats and slam would pick TRL/OGR
Warrior: BAR or maybe DWF... people didn't want to be "evil" if they had a choice.

Iksars are eliminated from the list, as nobody knew about them (and what little we knew didn't indicate how OP they were...) and also cus the vast majority of players were very sub-50 when Kunark came out.

Evil toons were extremely undesirable because they were logistically tough. Where will you bank? What vendors will you use? Where will you bind!? I played a lot of classic on Sullon Zek so I probably picture a very above-average number of dark elves, since I was on the evil team.

Virtually nobody min/maxed. Throughout the entire original extent of the p99 eras there was serious debate about what different stats even did for you. Rangers maxing AGI to be better "tanks", INT classes stacking STA for more hp, you name it. The misunderstandings faded over time, but in Kunark era there were still plenty of players that had no idea. I remember giving explanations of what each stat did to sell the jewlery, and having people argue with me, like the guy that wouldn't buy my +INT and +WIS jewelry (and loudly told everyone I was a fraud) because "only base stats from character creation determine mana".

[Jimjam]

Shaman: barbarian
Everything else: human

[uygi]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman: barbarian
Everything else: human

...only until you log in as a level one and are completely blind...

[DMN]

Barbarian for rogue but just slightly. Truth is I see tons of rogue races. It's prolly the most diverse race-wise.

Clerics are about even split between high elf and dorfs in my mind. (Though I think you are much better off rolling a an inny human)

DE for wizard. I don't even remember the last time I saw an erud wizard on green but I'm sure I've seen at least half a dozen DE ones since then.

Some of you responding really need to resd the original post: "By iconic I mean the race most people are most likely to think of if you play word association with that class or when they picture that class quickly in their mind."

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of you responding really need to resd the original post: "By iconic I mean the race most people are most likely to think of if you play word association with that class or when they picture that class quickly in their mind."

I read that literally and since it wasn't specific to EQ my answer would be "Human" for every single one. The non-EQ popular sources generally outweigh any EQ sources, these being very niche.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Barbarian for rogue but just slightly. Truth is I see tons of rogue races. It's prolly the most diverse race-wise.

This was the hardest choice to me, halflings and gnomes feel iconic as well and the whole class kinda makes the most sense as a human in some ways. I feel like dwarf has always been a very popular choice for the class though and it tends to be the first thing I picture in my mind for an EQ rogue.

[cd288]

Enchanter: High Elf

Magician: Erudite

Necromancer: Dark Elf

Wizard: High Elf

Cleric: Dwarf

Druid: Wood Elf

Shaman: Troll

Bard: Half Elf

Monk: Human

Ranger: Wood Elf

Rogue: Halfling

Paladin: Human

Shadow Knight: This is the toughest one IMO. Probably Troll but Human and Dark Elf are up there too

Warrior: Human

[TheRusty]

Bard: Half-Elf
Cleric: Dwarf
Druid: Halfling
Enchanter: Air Elemental
Magician: Gnome
Monk: Iksar
Necromancer: Dark Elf
Paladin: Human
Ranger: Wood elf
Rogue: Human
Shadow Knight: Troll
Shaman: Barbarian
Warrior: Ogre
Wizard: Erudite.

But how about anti-iconics?!

Bard: Humans
Cleric: Gnomes
Druid: Half-Elf
Enchanter: Any race without robe graphics
Magician: High elf
Monk: Human
Necromancer: Gnome
Paladin: Erudite
Ranger: Human
Rogue: Dark elf (no point to getting the guise, after all!)
Shadow Knight: Human
Shaman: Ogre
Warrior: Wood elf
Wizard: Human