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Old 10-08-2020, 10:53 AM
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Chardok is a good example.
Thanks for mentioning Chardok, sometimes I forget that zone exists. I hardly ever go there. Depth of mana pool is nice any time constant activity means the player doesn't have the time to sit around doing torpor/canni at his leisure. The shaman is defacto a hybrid character and ideally wants just about all statistics. That being said, if a player has to sacrifice something, it's possible to tailor a character to the work being done. The guy solo'ing Western Wastes dragons can usually get by with a smaller mana pool. The duo'ing shaman who isn't getting hit can place less emphasis on health/armor. Ultimately gear mostly improves staying power and margin for error, not so much raw capability. The sheer power of the class means it's difficult to build an ineffective shaman.

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Old 10-07-2020, 03:14 PM
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Spear of Construction
Smoldering Cudgel
Mage focus item like stein or torch.
Fairy-Hide Mantle
Fang Amulet of Calling
Vermillion Sky Ring
box of the void and class 3+5 mana batteries
Journeyman’s Walking Stick
DiZok Oracle Shelelleigh or Garduk
Fungi Tunic
Black/Green/White Flowers of functionality
Jaundiced Bone Breastplate
Ring 9

There’s some super high value items worth getting too:
Shamanistic Shenanigan Boots
Belt of Inconsistency

Keeping a high mana set on hand is useful too. Just to swap out your high AC/Click slots when you need to be spamming chloroplasts for a fight or need 20+ turgurs casts available. SS/matchless chest, benevolence range, pair of SS bracers. A soloing shaman build is very shit at those tasks without a way to quickly add 6-700 total manapool in anticipation of them. But otherwise AC is king, you won’t find a more important stat.
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:32 PM
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Spear of Construction
Smoldering Cudgel
Mage focus item like stein or torch.
Fairy-Hide Mantle
Fang Amulet of Calling
Vermillion Sky Ring
box of the void and class 3+5 mana batteries
Journeyman’s Walking Stick
DiZok Oracle Shelelleigh or Garduk
Fungi Tunic
Black/Green/White Flowers of functionality
Jaundiced Bone Breastplate
Ring 9

There’s some super high value items worth getting too:
Shamanistic Shenanigan Boots
Belt of Inconsistency
This is the exact list of items I use, except for ring 10 instead of ring 9, and no Fungi Tunic. With ring 10 and 3 aura of battle items, I never found much use in keeping the fungi tunic on hand.
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Old 11-12-2020, 04:22 PM
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This is the exact list of items I use, except for ring 10 instead of ring 9, and no Fungi Tunic. With ring 10 and 3 aura of battle items, I never found much use in keeping the fungi tunic on hand.
Fungi is 15, Regrowth is 15. Ring 10 is 10 and 3 AOB items is another 16. Basically sacrificing 14 regen (about 6mana/tick).

Does AOB stack on top of worn regen past 15? Assuming max mana regen and never getting hit would optimum set up be fungi, casted regen, 3 AoB items, FT 5?

Not criticizing you choices, I'm certainly guilty of the same. Just spit balling different setups and I always forget where the caps are outside of 15 worn, 15 spell.
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Old 11-12-2020, 05:24 PM
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Fungi is 15, Regrowth is 15. Ring 10 is 10 and 3 AOB items is another 16. Basically sacrificing 14 regen (about 6mana/tick).

Does AOB stack on top of worn regen past 15? Assuming max mana regen and never getting hit would optimum set up be fungi, casted regen, 3 AoB items, FT 5?

Not criticizing you choices, I'm certainly guilty of the same. Just spit balling different setups and I always forget where the caps are outside of 15 worn, 15 spell.
AoB does not stack worn regen past 15. If you are wearing a fungi tunic, AoB is only giving you the ATK bonus. Also, Ring 10 does not stack with regrowth.

Best regeneration you can get is +15 worn, +15 spell, +2 from Form of the Great Bear (this does stack with regrowth), and whatever the maximum is from bard song.

Only reason to get ring 10 on a Shaman is if you want to stack free spell regen with SoW. Otherwise, fungi staff and ring 9 works just fine.
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Old 11-14-2020, 04:21 PM
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Fungi is 15, Regrowth is 15. Ring 10 is 10 and 3 AOB items is another 16. Basically sacrificing 14 regen (about 6mana/tick).

Does AOB stack on top of worn regen past 15? Assuming max mana regen and never getting hit would optimum set up be fungi, casted regen, 3 AoB items, FT 5?

Not criticizing you choices, I'm certainly guilty of the same. Just spit balling different setups and I always forget where the caps are outside of 15 worn, 15 spell.
Maybe a noob question here, but does the innate regen of iksar/troll stack with all of these? Or is there a total regen cap that makes the extra innate regen redundant?
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Old 11-14-2020, 04:23 PM
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Maybe a noob question here, but does the innate regen of iksar/troll stack with all of these? Or is there a total regen cap that makes the extra innate regen redundant?
There is a regen cap I believe but it’s like 50(?). Racial regen does stack and is very worthwhile.
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Old 11-14-2020, 04:59 PM
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Maybe a noob question here, but does the innate regen of iksar/troll stack with all of these? Or is there a total regen cap that makes the extra innate regen redundant?
Yes racial regen stacks with everything, it is not considered in any of the caps mentioned. A Torpor Shaman doesn't really meditate, so racial regeneration is +8 standing at level 60. A Troll/Iksar can get up to +40 regen per tick standing without a bard, and Ogres/Barbarians can get up to +32. Once you get Torpor, worn/spell regeneration loses a lot of utility because Torpor is +300 regen per tick. This is why you don't see a lot of Torpor Shamans still using Fungi Tunic as their main chest piece.

Mathematically Troll/Iksar regeneration gives you 4800 HP per hour over Ogres/Barbarians, assuming you are always under 100% HP. That is saving you 3-4 Torpors per hour, which means it is only saving you 2 minutes per hour at best. You can check out my Shaman race guide in my signature for more details on that, and videos.
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Old 11-12-2020, 06:24 PM
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...and whatever the maximum is from bard song
Think it's 32hp/tick with a 2.5 modifier instrument, or 36hp/tick with Puretone Disc up.
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Old 11-12-2020, 06:28 PM
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Think it's 32hp/tick with a 2.5 modifier instrument, or 36hp/tick with Puretone Disc up.
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