The player-moderated Ancient Cyclops list is a disaster. - Page 2

Cawin · #1 08-03-2020, 11:40 AM

As the host of the list, thank you for your feedback.

Moved to Resolved

beh · #2 08-03-2020, 11:44 AM

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As the host of the list, thank you for your feedback.

Moved to Resolved

Wow, you seem like a nice guy from previous encounters with you, but that was an extremely arrogant and dismissive response from someone who should be interested in something like this that publicly represents your guild as incapable of enforcing the rules that you created.

You might think you're doing the server population a favor with this type of list system, but you aren't. There is more daily drama surrounding this camp since this list went into effect than anything I've encountered on p99 in over 10 years. Nearly everyone that I've spoken to about it has complaints.

Cawin · #3 08-03-2020, 11:54 AM

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Wow, you seem like a nice guy from previous encounters with you, but that was an extremely arrogant and dismissive response from someone who should be interested in something like this that publicly represents your guild as incapable of enforcing the rules that you created.

You might think you're doing the server population a favor with this type of list system, but you aren't. There is more daily drama surrounding this camp since this list went into effect than anything I've encountered on p99 in over 10 years. Nearly everyone that I've spoken to about it has complaints.

We didn't create the rules. It's a player agreement based on the foundation on the Server Camp rules.

You are overstating the "drama" on the list. To be quite frank, I figured it would have been wiped and re-established many times by now. We had two early insertions, both from the same guy, anonymously. It was reported and the guy tracked down on his alt within 6 minutes and corrected. Last week we had our first blow-up. Was rectified and Blisting and Menden even commented on it.

You talk about anyone editing it, but failing to mention it has full Audit History and people can and do correct it.

I very intentionally remain hands-off on it unless I'm totally needed.

I'm sorry to hear about your situation and frustrations. Contested camps are always like that in EQ. The vast majority of feedback I hear is positive.

Hope he doesn't mind me sharing this:

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Blistig 07/28/2020
I have a strong interest in keeping it going because it's one of the very few player-driven agreements on any server that people actually respect

Hope that helps you understand my response even if you still don't agree with it.

beh · #4 08-04-2020, 11:11 AM

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We didn't create the rules. It's a player agreement based on the foundation on the Server Camp rules.

The server rules don't burden people to maintain a list of 150+ people, 25% or more of which are plat farmers, lest they suffer the wrath of possible GM intervention and/or hordes of angry people who expected to go to sleep and wake up to the Jboots fairy because they couldn't be bothered to go about it the same way we all do at every other camp.

Daldaen · #5 08-03-2020, 11:41 AM

Time to implement /list at AC camp guys.

galach · #6 08-03-2020, 11:42 AM

You guys should just come to a player agreement that the player needs to be waiting there instead of just signing up for a list & not having to have a presence.

beh · #7 08-03-2020, 11:45 AM

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You guys should just come to a player agreement that the player needs to be waiting there instead of just signing up for a list & not having to have a presence.

100% agreed, thank you for your voice of reason.

beh · #8 08-06-2020, 07:12 PM

Hey, quick update from the comfort of my living room couch!!!

It's been approximately EIGHTY (80) HOURS and I've moved up from #100 to #49. Three days down, hopefully only 3 more to go!!!!!!

Yeah!!! This is the classic experience I long for!

Cawin · #9 08-06-2020, 07:24 PM

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Hey, quick update from the comfort of my living room couch!!!

It's been approximately EIGHTY (80) HOURS and I've moved up from #100 to #49. Three days down, hopefully only 3 more to go!!!!!!

Yeah!!! This is the classic experience I long for!

I know this is sarcasm, but it really is! Bumonrug and I were 13 when we camped it. Prepped for a weekend full of it. Waited and waited to get it. Camped it in shifts at my computer taking 2 hour breaks we always failed to sleep for. Once we got camp, continued to kill PHs for 2 days until a GM showed up, confirmed it was broken, reset. We got booted, got back in, someone else killed and got ring. I was so delirious from sleep deprivation I was asking my family what reagent you need to levitate in real life stating EQ requires bat wings, but thats just ridiculous. Woulda loved a centralized list back then we coulda checked to know when we were coming up and be in position.

RecondoJoe · #10 08-08-2020, 02:15 AM

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Hey, quick update from the comfort of my living room couch!!!

It's been approximately EIGHTY (80) HOURS and I've moved up from #100 to #49. Three days down, hopefully only 3 more to go!!!!!!

Yeah!!! This is the classic experience I long for!

I don't like it either, but I know from doing a lot of other camps that if there wasn't a list then one guild would seize control of the camp and no one else would ever get access to it without GM intervention.

Really are better off just buying the MQ, dawg.