What does a Human Monk get over an Iksar Monk in P99?

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in terms of overall combat performance, an Iksar Monk really outperforms a Human Monk hands down, no questions?

Depends on how you figure. Comparing equal levels? Sure, the iksar's better. However for a given amount of hours spent on the character the human will be about a couple levels higher, making it the stronger character in that sense up until such a time as everyone runs into the level 60 cap. The majority of characters created on P1999 do not make it to level 60 so that's not a trivial consideration by any means.

Danth

[Jimjam]

Iksar are meant to be better. It's a sales tool for Kunark.

That said, a human monk will kill things ever so slightly faster while on a corpse run (or otherwise using non-epic fists), and they require much less xp to level. It's not as simple as I'm about to claim, but the xp needed to get a human monk to 60 won't get an iksar past 57.

The boni received for being an iksar are kind of overkill and won't stop you from being a good monk.

No matter how good an iksar monk is, it will never be good at being a human monk, if that is what you want to play.

If you decide on an iksar monk I suggest making sure you download one of the animation fix packs, and also roll a female.

[Christina.]

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Far as faction, ive seen ogres in akanon. So go figure, it's EverQuest. You can fix ANY faction with enough time/focus

[Croco]

Humans get nothing over Iksar. Aside from the inconsequential faster leveling Iksar are superior in every way.

[Keebz]

As jim jam said, pre epic, human fists are slightly better.

[Kirdan]

Play to min/max fashion and you'll never have issues with your racial choice. Humans are objectively better fashion than iksar.

[DMN]

Regrets.

[Vexenu]

• Human Monks can make Antonian Javelins which are significantly better than regular forged javelins.
  
• Human Monks have a -20% XP penalty, while Iksar Monks have a -44% XP penalty. The Human Monk will level significantly faster, and no, the Iksar regen is NOT enough to offset the penalty. Anyone telling you otherwise can't do math.
  
• If you're actually going to main a Monk, you will spend the majority of your playtime in guild and group activities pulling and/or DPSing, not tanking. Iksar racials are not substantial benefits for those activities. A little extra AC and regen isn't going to make a difference when you're fully raid/group buffed and probably wearing a Fungi and have Regrowth on.
  
• Human combat animations are much better than Iksar.
  
• Human Monks have some of the best Fashionquest options in the game, from Classic all the way through Velious.
  
• If you're on Green and want to be a raiding Monk in Kunark/Velious, you will want to be a Human. Unless you have an entire guild willing to PL and gear you, there is no way that an Iksar Monk will be competitive with an already Classic geared level 50 Human Monk when Kunark launches. And remember Green's Kunark timeline is VERY short compared to Blue.
  
• Equally geared at 60, an Iksar Monk is statistically superior to the Human Monk in every way. This is inarguable. But from a practical standpoint the benefits are not that great when you look at what level 60 Monks spend most of their time doing. Your personal satisfaction with the appearance of your character is much, much more important than minor statistical perks that won't provide a noticeable benefit for the vast majority of your playtime.
  

[Petrified Wood]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• Human Monks can make Antonian Javelins which are significantly better than regular forged javelins.
  
• Human Monks have a -20% XP penalty, while Iksar Monks have a -44% XP penalty. The Human Monk will level significantly faster, and no, the Iksar regen is NOT enough to offset the penalty. Anyone telling you otherwise can't do math.
  
• If you're actually going to main a Monk, you will spend the majority of your playtime in guild and group activities pulling and/or DPSing, not tanking. Iksar racials are not substantial benefits for those activities. A little extra AC and regen isn't going to make a difference when you're fully raid/group buffed and probably wearing a Fungi and have Regrowth on.
  
• Human combat animations are much better than Iksar.
  
• Human Monks have some of the best Fashionquest options in the game, from Classic all the way through Velious.
  
• If you're on Green and want to be a raiding Monk in Kunark/Velious, you will want to be a Human. Unless you have an entire guild willing to PL and gear you, there is no way that an Iksar Monk will be competitive with an already Classic geared level 50 Human Monk when Kunark launches. And remember Green's Kunark timeline is VERY short compared to Blue.
  
• Equally geared at 60, an Iksar Monk is statistically superior to the Human Monk in every way. This is inarguable. But from a practical standpoint the benefits are not that great when you look at what level 60 Monks spend most of their time doing. Your personal satisfaction with the appearance of your character is much, much more important than minor statistical perks that won't provide a noticeable benefit for the vast majority of your playtime.
  

That pretty much is a accurate rundown of determining what race is "best" of the two, well put imo. Personally I think being happy with how you look is very important considering you are gonna be the one staring at your character for hours/days/weeks/months/years on end. Unless there is a huge advantage for a particular race/class combo I have always chosen my race by considering how I want to look, play etc. I had the option to go for a Iksar monk on p99 this last year and despite being told by everyone to go iksar, I picked a human since I did not have one yet and I was gonna be the one to live with my choice. I have no regrets now that I am lvl 60, I can do anything a Iksar can do at this point but I also do it rocking a sweet eyepatch! lol

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Petrified Wood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That pretty much is a accurate rundown of determining what race is "best" of the two, well put imo. Personally I think being happy with how you look is very important considering you are gonna be the one staring at your character for hours/days/weeks/months/years on end. Unless there is a huge advantage for a particular race/class combo I have always chosen my race by considering how I want to look, play etc. I had the option to go for a Iksar monk on p99 this last year and despite being told by everyone to go iksar, I picked a human since I did not have one yet and I was gonna be the one to live with my choice. I have no regrets now that I am lvl 60, I can do anything a Iksar can do at this point but I also do it rocking a sweet eyepatch! lol

I wish more people made that choice with other classes. I see way too many people rocking Ogre for Shadow Knights even though Troll and Dark Elf fit the "evil bastard" role a lot better, IMO. I mean sure, some probably like the look of an Ogre, but...eh, I dunno, I don't see why. Troll has much meaner looking facial expressions, IMO.

FSI really isn't that great compared to every other racial. That shouldn't be reason alone to pick Ogre with no questions asked.