Game Mechanics: Rogue Skill Hide/Sneak - Page 2

**Haynar** · #11 02-19-2010, 06:37 PM

Ok, thanks. I will look into that. I looked before, and didnt find anything obvious. Maybe its not obvious.

Haynar

**Haynar** · #12 02-20-2010, 09:30 PM

The breaking of sneak and hide on pickpocket (success or failure) is being initiated by the client. At this point, there is no way to fix this. There could be some sort of setting, or flag with the mob, or something that allows it to not break. But we do not currently know what this is. This may be something that we can never figure out.

Haynar

Heebee · #13 02-21-2010, 05:10 PM

My wife tried this last night and it definitely makes sneak fail when pickpocketing.

Dr.Spike · #14 03-13-2010, 06:59 AM

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The breaking of sneak and hide on pickpocket (success or failure) is being initiated by the client. At this point, there is no way to fix this. There could be some sort of setting, or flag with the mob, or something that allows it to not break. But we do not currently know what this is. This may be something that we can never figure out.

Haynar

any news on this? i know when i played some on VZ/TZ you could pickpocket and stay hide/sneak on success, i know this becaus alot of rogues where in fear and pickpocket gems of mobs in there.
Got any ide how they manage to get it to work for them on the server?

**Haynar** · #15 03-13-2010, 11:32 AM

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any news on this? i know when i played some on VZ/TZ you could pickpocket and stay hide/sneak on success, i know this becaus alot of rogues where in fear and pickpocket gems of mobs in there.
Got any ide how they manage to get it to work for them on the server?

That gives me some ideas of other things to check.

Thanks.

Haynar

Tryfaen · #16 03-13-2010, 11:52 AM

we were talking about it in IRC the other day and it was mentioned that if you are sneaking but not hidden sneak will not break on pickpocket. Might not be useful but then again it might help find the solution.

Dr.Spike · #17 03-13-2010, 08:25 PM

i notice today when i pickpocket sometimes, the hide and sneak button will pop up and it seems like i drop hide and sneak, but as long as i dont move i will still be hide/sneak.
And if i click on hide and sneak the invis will drop and mobs start hitting on me

Dr.Spike · #18 04-20-2010, 08:07 PM

**Haynar** · #19 04-20-2010, 09:39 PM

Sneak/Hide - Get behind mob - drop hide - pickpocket - re-hide . Good to go. You cannot pick while hidden, or the client initiates dropping hide. If you pick while only sneaking, it works.

The sneak/hide failure rates are messed up. They fail too much at higher levels from what I saw, but I dont know what appropriate failure rates are.

Haynar

Hasbinbad · #20 04-20-2010, 10:36 PM

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Sneak/Hide - Get behind mob - drop hide - pickpocket - re-hide . Good to go. You cannot pick while hidden, or the client initiates dropping hide. If you pick while only sneaking, it works.

The sneak/hide failure rates are messed up. They fail too much at higher levels from what I saw, but I dont know what appropriate failure rates are.

Haynar

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Much more important however is the rogue's lost ability to sneak pull. Rogues not being able to sneak pull is most heinous.

Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaase!!