Any confirmed Manastone sales yet?

[Izmael]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

May be news to you but leveling to 60 in the classic world was always the best due to classic mobs having less hp than kunark-velious mobs. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True if you rule out CoM and HS that offer a neverending supply of 45-ish melee mobs.

SolB, Guk, The Hole... all these places are mighty fine but are full of wizards, shamans, clerics and other annoying classes to kill.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

May be news to you but leveling to 60 in the classic world was always the best due to classic mobs having less hp than kunark-velious mobs. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on the class. bards, necros, and druids, for instance would have a pretty strong incentive to headout and spend the majorty if not all their time in kunark. Enchanters, too, since they are often only capped in their kill rate by available mobs to engage. To some degree mages are the same, and as they hit 40+ it's harder and harder to find single targets from them to mow down. Wizards will have many more places to quad, but it really comes down to how camped old world places are for wizrads/mages 50+. And these are all just purely for exp considerations, excluding loot. For example shaman will certainly want to try to get to camps in their mid to late 50s where they have at least a prayer of getting torpor, even if the exp is bad. Though this is technically outside of the bounds of what you were mentioning, I think the compelling force here is so high it needs to be considered a fundamental part of the class. Shaman is virtually a different class when it has torpor.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on the class. bards, necros, and druids, for instance would have a pretty strong incentive to headout and spend the majorty if not all their time in kunark. Enchanters, too, since they are often only capped in their kill rate by available mobs to engage. To some degree mages are the same, and as they hit 40+ it's harder and harder to find single targets from them to mow down. Wizards will have many more places to quad, but it really comes down to how camped old world places are for wizrads/mages 50+. And these are all just purely for exp considerations, excluding loot. For example shaman will certainly want to try to get to camps in their mid to late 50s where they have at least a prayer of getting torpor, even if the exp is bad. Though this is technically outside of the bounds of what you were mentioning, I think the compelling force here is so high it needs to be considered a fundamental part of the class. Shaman is virtually a different class when it has torpor.

For Druid quadding a long time ago I spent only a few levels in Kunark at the FM giant fort from like 34-38. Then went BB, to TD, to Velious.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For Druid quadding a long time ago I spent only a few levels in Kunark at the FM giant fort from like 34-38. Then went BB, to TD, to Velious.

Charming is more effective than quadding for exp, unless you lack a decent charm location. charming is also more effective when more players are around than attempting to quad. if the server is heavily populated like green, too, it's highly likely people won't be respecting your quad camps. People being around your camps is the real wildcard to that will determine what is the best exp. It's hard to accurately predict anything without knowing. You'd have to either ignore it, in which case a lot of old world spots become better, or assume a lot of people will be around (most likely scenario) and then kunark looks far more appealing.

[turbosilk]

People have been selling manastones.

[rewinder47]

I imagine some guilds might purchase them for powerleveling purposes. But individuals? Probably not

[Jibartik]

You know what woulda been cool, if green had some sort of data tracking that would like, at the end of the year tell us how much plat was made, when, where, by who, from what mobs at what rate and with heat maps for like time's/zones/camps and all the other whatever data things that my lizard brain doesn't understand.

I'm curious at a cost between 100 & 200(+?)k, how many can be bought before kunark? Velious?

[Castle2.0]

Tuljin with the same "pplz has the dkpz, mean pplz no haz platz" argument. Ugh.

Phinny raid takes 30 minutes tops. Fear 1 day a week, Hate 1 day a week. What are raiders doing the rest of the time? What are non-raid guild people doing to get good items they can't get since they don't raid? That's right, farming dat plat.

Fact: 30kpp+/day flows in through HG camp alone. The server is flooded with filthy plat and will continue to be since this dirty bathtub has no drain.

By the time anyone has the plat to buy it will be a useless item that doesnt work in the new zones everyone is now in haha kinda ironic

Invaluable item for wiz / dru, if you know how to use it. Video incoming this before June to show what most people just don't know. Stay tuned.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tuljin with the same "pplz has the dkpz, mean pplz no haz platz" argument. Ugh.

Phinny raid takes 30 minutes tops. Fear 1 day a week, Hate 1 day a week. What are raiders doing the rest of the time? What are non-raid guild people doing to get good items they can't get since they don't raid? That's right, farming dat plat.

Fact: 30kpp+/day flows in through HG camp alone. The server is flooded with filthy plat and will continue to be since this dirty bathtub has no drain.

Invaluable item for wiz / dru, if you know how to use it. Video incoming this before June to show what most people just don't know. Stay tuned.

Dude lol, as if I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. Unlike the ~~~rAiDeRz~~~ I actually brush shoulders with the hoi polloi. People who have money don't need manastones, and they certainly aren't gonna pay what people want if they do have it. Basic economics man.

And dude again....people are farming - - - - DKP. Camping green mobs for DKP, doing dumb shit for DKP. No DKP I don't go. That's the whole point man. That's the whole issue with DKP and its an inherently adversarial system. It is a "good" solution from many angles but it creates an environment where people don't get DKP they don't go do shit. ~~~rAiD~~~ guilds are full of nubs man. The nubs aren't farming. The farmers have made their plat and keep stacking it, and they also went and camped their manastone. Anybody new to the server is playing serious catchup. 200k is a massive amount of plat to stack. This is a fact.

Still waiting on that 200k sale. I'm not the one sitting here running my mouth about how much its "worth" when nobody is paying the money for it, and nobody will. People with money lowball people all the time, just like you do dude. Same nerds at the same game. And that's fine. When it does sell for 200k, 200k won't be worth "200k" lol. Gonna talk like I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about man lol absolutely ludicrous

[Waedawen]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tuljin with the same "pplz has the dkpz, mean pplz no haz platz" argument. Ugh.

Phinny raid takes 30 minutes tops. Fear 1 day a week, Hate 1 day a week. What are raiders doing the rest of the time? What are non-raid guild people doing to get good items they can't get since they don't raid? That's right, farming dat plat.

Fact: 30kpp+/day flows in through HG camp alone. The server is flooded with filthy plat and will continue to be since this dirty bathtub has no drain.

Invaluable item for wiz / dru, if you know how to use it. Video incoming this before June to show what most people just don't know. Stay tuned.

and then there's this jobber with his whole "i'm gonna make a video just you wait" schtick

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. PLEASE. You don't have any fucking secret technology. You're not a fucking prophet. If you want to be a visionary leader to a bunch of fucking noobs and write a guide about it, God bless you.

But this game is 20 years old and "Been there, Done that" is an understatement. Don't act like you're some kind of Oracle. Please, fucking spare us. This mug talking about farming hill giants without a drip of irony. Fucking Lord in Heaven.