OT and You

[AreYouAngered MyBrother]

Why are you exping in an outdoor Kunark zone? It's shit exp unless you're...kiting lots of mobs.

You've made a conscious decision to group in a zone with horrible exp.
So....why would you suddenly care about how much exp you're getting?

It makes no logical sense unless you're factioning or trying to farm a specific loot.


It is almost like you just want this guy to do what you say, without any thought as to why you're in this zone in the first place.

[Grizzl]

You know what i love about Bards? Its when i, (Ench) have to leave
a group and the only replacement is a Bard. Im not sure if its the
comments of regret, angst, or just plain doomed acceptance I see
from the group that make me feel so good I rolled an Ench instead
of a Bard.

[Grizzled]

As a bard of 7 years on live, i see both sides of the issue. I spent my long days swarm charm kiting Plane of Nightmare. All the birds trees and spiders were in my pack. A dick move yes. However at the time i was doing this Omens had come out and i was only pissing off 2 groups per day, cause the planes were empty.

Now the other side of the coin is, Kunark is just released. Lots of people are hitting kunark zones to exp. A large amount of the population is new players coming in with the expansion. Ot is one of the best chain pull "smash" grouping zones in kunark. And these people are pissing off 30+ groups a day.

You can look at this coin either way. I really dont care, my inner Bard is too striong. Its just a fine line, between hoarding and ability. Much like the fine line between kiting and training, very difficult to judge.

[Salty]

OT is huge bro, move around

[Amelinda]

There is a difference between swarm kiting and being a griefing annoyance to the zone.

If you are running around gathering the entire zone and stealing mobs from other people who are camping there if they have them mezzed etc whatever with your AE and training people and killing them and hogging the entire zone for a ridiculous amount of time then I personally will consider you to be griefing and you will win a suspension.

I have played bards. I "get" swarm kiting. but, I never trained anyone, and I never kited the entire damn zone.

Stop being selfish during peak hours in highly populated zones. Because when you are selfish I get a ton of petitions and have to show up to the zone.

When someone calls you out on it, don't be an ass.

Be reasonable and play nice please.

And by a similar token... people who petition at the drop of a hat without attempting to work things out with a /tell first? Seriously. L2B an adult [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Goosefabba]

im not saying don't kite, just have some consideration for your fellow players that are trying to lvl, also i love the tags for this. apparently i must be young whiney bitch living in my moms basement 2/3rds true.

[garyogburn]

Originally Posted by Grizzl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know what i love about Bards? Its when i, (Ench) have to leave
a group and the only replacement is a Bard. Im not sure if its the
comments of regret, angst, or just plain doomed acceptance I see
from the group that make me feel so good I rolled an Ench instead
of a Bard.

Not to give any credence to this post, but it makes me wonder about high end bards. Can bards mez as well as chanters in the deep 50s/60s? I have a lower level bard, 24, and he can mez very well, so I hope this ability isnt diminished later on.

[Grizzled]

Originally Posted by Salty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OT is huge bro, move around

I dont think you understand. They literally spend 10-15 mins swarming up the entire zone of rhino's, non casting sarnaks, cats,cacti and chickens. The only thing they are leaving is the greens down by the watering hole. The only place to move to is another zone. this cannot be acceptable. Most of the dungeons are caster camped. Soo at the levels you hunt OT where is there left to go? Old world? Open zones get swarmed, dungeons locked up with casters soloing named camps. Something has got to give. This is the reason why on live, the agro limit was set to 4 mobs. 4 mobs of the same name was all you could agro. Once you picked up a 5th, one would lose agro and go walking off till one died.

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by garyogburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to give any credence to this post, but it makes me wonder about high end bards. Can bards mez as well as chanters in the deep 50s/60s? I have a lower level bard, 24, and he can mez very well, so I hope this ability isnt diminished later on.

The max level we can mez is 55, not sure what it is for enchanters but that should take care of most exp mobs, however ours only lasts 18 seconds max, and in general Enchanters do a much more rounded and better job of CC, but a bard should do fine in most exp groups. The main reason people probably pick enchants over bards for groups is because they can add charm dps, cast clarity, and don't have a 40% exp penalty.

Which is why when you see a bard soloing instead of saying "that fucker!" the appropriate response, as hasbinbad pointed out, should be "aww that poor boy, good for him!"

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Grizzled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Soo at the levels you hunt OT where is there left to go? Old world? Open zones get swarmed, dungeons locked up with casters soloing named camps.

Dalnirs/droga are only a zone away, and plenty of non-named mobs offer great experience (are there even any named exp mobs in OT?)! Old world is also very viable, I recall KK being great experience, and some of the SolB and guk camps were also tolerable.