I learned something new today!

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, where are getting this from, because it's wrong. Togor's is better than shiftless % and mana at 44.

All I know is togors won't overwrite shiftless with both the sham and ench at level 50.

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfE93xON8jk

One of my favorite SNL skits.

“Meow meeoooowwww”

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly, anything that isn't suffering in hunger in the cold wilderness trying to live another day is better then everyone elses existence.

What if the wilderness is hot?

[Cen]

Something went wrong with my last post and it sounded depressing because of the mistake.

I meant to say if you arent suffering to death in hunger in the wilderness, your enjoying life better then 99% of the long gone humans of history.

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[Doktoor]

I spend about 4 weeks a year in the wilderness, cold, wet, and hungry, bowhunting Dall sheep, moose, and elk. They are the days of the year that I look most forward to all year long and give intense happiness and meaning to my life.

[Cen]

Originally Posted by Doktoor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I spend about 4 weeks a year in the wilderness, cold, wet, and hungry, bowhunting Dall sheep, moose, and elk. They are the days of the year that I look most forward to all year long and give intense happiness and meaning to my life.

I agree. We came full circle on naturalistic issues. People go to gyms to lift barbells to simulate doing hard work that on a base level would otherwise be unappealing.

I go through a routine ass kicking because i don't get my ass kicked enough.

[Bigsham]

pretty sure both slows are great but ench is magic based sham is disease or poison. Sure you can debuff yours real easy but i remember shm slows lasting much longer and if it resists and you get summon shams can survive !

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. We came full circle on naturalistic issues. People go to gyms to lift barbells to simulate doing hard work that on a base level would otherwise be unappealing.

I go through a routine ass kicking because i don't get my ass kicked enough.

People lift barbells to get ripped.

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by Bigsham [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pretty sure both slows are great but ench is magic based sham is disease or poison. Sure you can debuff yours real easy but i remember shm slows lasting much longer and if it resists and you get summon shams can survive !

Shaman Slow is MR just like enchanter. Shaman slow at 50 lasts 2:12. Enchanter lasts 2:12 at 44, not sure at 50.

But yes, Shaman are better target for surviving aggro post slow cast.

[plzrelax]

It may also be worth noting that some enchanter slows are research only