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View Poll Results: Opinions on upcoming Nerfs - Manastone, Guise, BP, Box,etc
Leave them all in forever! 37 19.07%
Get rid of them, we must follow the timeline! 110 56.70%
Leave them till kunark then get rid of them. 47 24.23%
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:39 PM
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who has bladestorm?
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Old 02-25-2010, 10:51 PM
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Wow lots of votes heh.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:15 PM
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Honestly, whats the point of keeping these items in. Jboots would probably be the best to keep, where as the manastone wouldn't. Why, because your casual that doesn't have one, will never get one. EE is perma camped, and top end guilds will just relish on the pp farm.

Keep Jboots, mask and abukar. Those 3 won't hurt. I have no say in Rubi as I don't care about that armor.
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Old 02-26-2010, 02:52 AM
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Lets just delete every account on the server and restart, then all the new players have an equal chance!

OMG, non-troll response ahead!

You people are idiots. Stop acting like the devs give a shit what you think about items not dropping anymore. If you don't like that you didn't get a thex dagger or a billion manastones, well that's tough shit. Get over it.
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Old 02-26-2010, 03:01 AM
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WTB moss covered twig.

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Old 02-26-2010, 04:53 AM
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I know it's every sycophantic nerd's wet dream to come on a message board and be a complete douche, but it is possible for us to have somewhat civil discourse here.

I just feel that some of the items, as noted in the other post about this right now, were removed in original EQ for reasons that might not apply now.

I had all these items on live in 1999-2001 and I won't lose any sleep if I don't have them this time around, trust me. I'll just be disappointed when I want to hit up Najena for some jboots or Cazic for some rubi, and nobody really cares about going to those zones anymore.
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Old 02-26-2010, 06:26 AM
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The manastone is too powerful in the hands of a cleric. They are able to stone down to 1%hp then cheal back up and gain 400+ mana. This is by far faster then meditating and not intended. When Kunark comes out it will only get worse as there is even more +hp gear to stack. With chloroplast it ends up giving you +3 mana a tick if you keep your hp down a little bit but with regrowth it becomes more powerful than clarity. They are really only useful on a raid but for that purpose they are over powered.

Jboots need to be moved to the quest as there is currently only 1 place to get them. When the quest is added there will be 3 places and they will remove some platinum from the game.

If they don't remove the box they are not going to add tinker bags and no one wants that. The bags also serve the purpose of removing platinum.

The guise of the deceiver allows anyone to make themselves non KOS to evil races. This is not fair to evil races who are already at a disadvantage when it comes to locations to sell and bank. This ability is something intended for rogues and bard. If you don't remove the mask what are you going to add to those classes to make up for it?

Rubicite Breastplate adds to the manastone problem for shamans. Aside from that it also severs no other purpose then to twink low level melee characters. There is simply no logical reason to balance the game around twinking.


All of these reasons are also valid arguments that the items should not have been included originally but that was a conscious choice the developers made to reward people who had the faith to spend time leveling a character on a server with a low population. If you are suggesting they "improve the game" a far better improvement would have been to never include them to begin with. This server is about following the classic time line and this is the ONLY reason they were put in to begin with.
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:36 AM
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Excellent post Dr Plump, I think that pretty much settles the question
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:28 PM
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The manastone is too powerful in the hands of a cleric. They are able to stone down to 1%hp then cheal back up and gain 400+ mana. This is by far faster then meditating and not intended. When Kunark comes out it will only get worse as there is even more +hp gear to stack. With chloroplast it ends up giving you +3 mana a tick if you keep your hp down a little bit but with regrowth it becomes more powerful than clarity. They are really only useful on a raid but for that purpose they are over powered.

Jboots need to be moved to the quest as there is currently only 1 place to get them. When the quest is added there will be 3 places and they will remove some platinum from the game.

If they don't remove the box they are not going to add tinker bags and no one wants that. The bags also serve the purpose of removing platinum.

The guise of the deceiver allows anyone to make themselves non KOS to evil races. This is not fair to evil races who are already at a disadvantage when it comes to locations to sell and bank. This ability is something intended for rogues and bard. If you don't remove the mask what are you going to add to those classes to make up for it?

Rubicite Breastplate adds to the manastone problem for shamans. Aside from that it also severs no other purpose then to twink low level melee characters. There is simply no logical reason to balance the game around twinking.


All of these reasons are also valid arguments that the items should not have been included originally but that was a conscious choice the developers made to reward people who had the faith to spend time leveling a character on a server with a low population. If you are suggesting they "improve the game" a far better improvement would have been to never include them to begin with. This server is about following the classic time line and this is the ONLY reason they were put in to begin with.
Nicely stated on all accounts.

Anyway, the poll seems to have backfired on the OP.
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:42 PM
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I agree and support the removal of all these items. Drplump, is correct.
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