Not soloing a /list for someone else

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it's a weird situation. On the one hand, why not just group up with the person and you guys can both get some XP while killing mobs?

On the other, this is a flaw in the system. Apparently the intent is simply to mimic the old classic way of doing things where people would create informal lists. However, the issue that arises is that in the old days you needed to be able to kill the mob because that's how you got the loot rights. They weren't awarded by computer code to the next person on the list. As such, in the classic days you wouldn't even bother going to the camp to join any list unless you could kill the mob yourself. I've come to see this as a really big flaw in the system that's actually creating a more unclassic situation by permitting people who otherwise wouldn't be there to get on the list.

I was there just before Intesifier and had to go as well after some interactions with the person #1 on the list. The reason he (and I) didn't group with this person is because the person stated he thought it was risky to clear with so few people so he wasn't going to put himself at risk by helping. Clearly a party foul here. Both of us left because this person wasn't willing to help clear the camp he was #1 on the list for.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was there just before Intesifier and had to go as well after some interactions with the person #1 on the list. The reason he (and I) didn't group with this person is because the person stated he thought it was risky to clear with so few people so he wasn't going to put himself at risk by helping. Clearly a party foul here. Both of us left because this person wasn't willing to help clear the camp he was #1 on the list for.

gasp, someone in #1 position not able to clear the camp. expecting other people to do it for him? well i never.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, the issue that arises is that in the old days you needed to be able to kill the mob because that's how you got the loot rights. They weren't awarded by computer code to the next person on the list. As such, in the classic days you wouldn't even bother going to the camp to join any list unless you could kill the mob yourself.

This is what I have been saying almost since the very first thread that someone created to rant about the manastone camp.

Just like OP suggests, they need to change it so that if the PH/named has not been killed for X amount of time then the person first on the list should be moved to the bottom of the list.

When this was first suggested, the majority of people pushed back and claimed it to be a greedy and selfish idea, etc.

It looks like now that people have had time to experience the scenario in OP's post first-hand they are now coming to their senses. Please fix this devs! No more list camp leechers!!!

[Phaezed-Reality]

lol, had something simular to us happen. I'm not here to farm pixels for people who simply stand in line, either u kill it or bring people with you who can. we waited 2.5 hours for someone other then the person in #1 spot to bring a group of people to kill it.

I won't even mention what happened next because its done and over with. but yea. Sorry im not farming anyone who is afk/cant kill shit that is on list.

[Magerin]

Im supersized it took this long for people to catch on to this. People are just making level 35 toons that can kite to 35 then sit on camps waiting for others to do the work for them. way to break the spirit of the rule Lolz that it took this long to make it to RnF. There really should be a PH/Named check added to it so RMTers dont sit on camps on both green / teal only doing AFK checks and waiting for others to do the work for them.

[Nordok]

Why not just raise the minimum level so its an almost guaranteed solo. Would cut down on competition too.

[BurtMacklinFBI]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...5&postcount=12

ive heard GMs arent actually following thru with this. bad omen.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by BurtMacklinFBI [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...5&postcount=12

ive heard GMs arent actually following thru with this. bad omen.

I appreciate their efforts and they actually do their best but I sat and waited on a stalled camp for hours after being awake for God knows how long until some white knight (who griefed himself off the game) formed a group for the lady Avatar's character who was stalling.

Did I mention I am a fan of PvP servers?

[Fammaden]

Has anyone actually had success with such a petition?

[Donkey Hotay]

Maybe that policy got hip-checked by Rogean and Llandris got Braknar'd.