Bard Help

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is that classic? Or "not a hack"? Scripting is okay with the staff? It's a dangerous path Hazek.

I hear you Swish. But there's no good reason to force double tapping. You might as well make it so you have to press it 4 times for each ability or any other irrational number besides once. Its why the first thing ever bard does is create stopsong macros and it something that should have been fixed since the beginning (or let us have a normal UI). But you can't with only 6 slots since you need that to switch instruments unless you want a huge inventory box cluttering your screen, which does nothing to enhance the "classic experience". Not to mention having no room for other macros like pulling, assist, etc. Sometimes limitations can be good for the game but in this case it makes it terrible to play a bard without it. And yes, macros are 100% different than a hack. That's why i've used it in multiple games and never had a problem. Literally never gotten banned. So if they wanna ban specifically for this then that's fine, but I think that would be silly and I already uninstalled anyway because my two accounts were suspended for petty unjust reasons. And the "Iron fist" mentality can be practical but not for everything. Judgement should always be used. So take it or leave it and do what you will. But it sure makes playing a bard much more enjoyable without any negative effects because all it does is let you single tap so you can use those slots for instruments.

Also forgot to mention that stopsong has to be bound to 0

[Llandris]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And since there's only 6 action slots (cancer) you're forced to either use that for stopsong macros or double tap and use those slots for instruments (you'll need all 6). I understand and agree with keeping things classic but having only 6 slots (especially since action binds don't work) and having to double tap is beyond stupid so I made a script that allows you to single tap so you can use those slots for instruments. You can get it here with a readme on how to use: Its not technically "allowed" but its not a hack either. And all it does is make a bards life viable.

This is 100% against the rules and you will be banned for it if we catch you. Thanks for admitting it though, makes my job easier.

[korzax]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is 100% against the rules and you will be banned for it if we catch you. Thanks for admitting it though, makes my job easier.

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[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is 100% against the rules and you will be banned for it if we catch you. Thanks for admitting it though, makes my job easier.

Yeah and I openly talk about using it for multiple reasons such as:

- Banning people for that would be dumb and petty since all it does is fix a bad mechanic that everyone fixes with macros and shouldn't exist to begin with.
- It would also demonstrate how unreasonable and irrational you are.
- Playing a bard without it is cancer.
- I don't need Everquest in my life and getting banned would be a favor since I only play cause its kinda fun and addicting but would be better off without it.
- I already uninstalled anyway.
- If I really cared then I would just keep using it without mentioning it and nothing would happen since its a macro and not a hack and you would never even know. Just like in all the other games i've used scripts in.

But yea go for it Stalin.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a bard go veeshan. Your the only class in the game who can and its just like being agnostic but cooler? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But yeah bards only need tank stats.
Also bards have insane dps and group healing but people don't realize it.

Especially w no Clarity in-game yet Bard regensong w/ lute in incredibly useful for reducing group downtime

And yea you'll wanna invest in Banded and/or Bronze as Bard (ull be getting hit alot while pulling and on mez breaks)

[Mankong]

Thank you all for your help! I’m excited to give the class a small try tonight lmao. Quick question- Since I’m kinda free to go loads of places, is there any place in particular that I CAN’T go where an Evil deity could? Also I am kinda sad Prexus bards can’t wear the steel silk armor.

[Videri]

Hey folks, it's not just a choice between double-tapping songs and macros. You can forego macros and instead of double-tapping 22, quick-tap 12. One then two, with a rolling motion. Hitting 1 turns off your current song, hitting 2 turns on song 2. Then 23 to turn off current song and turn on song 3...and so on.

[ir0nfist]

I would suggest having young wrists and hands to play a bard. If you don't have those, acquiring them from someone else may be a problem depending on how badass you are.

[Legidias]

Ya'll are weird. Change hotkeys to F keys. Use 1-8 for spells. You don't need to have some weird hotbar setup.

Also, Hazek is full of crap, don't listen to him. He advocates ninja looting and thinks (incorrectly) that CHA helps with fizzles (they don't).

You only need 3 real hotkeys as bard, for bag + MH/secondary to swap.

Stopsong macro is ass and any decent bard shouldn't use it. It wastes valuable time in twisting and your 4/5th song will always fall off if you use macro (as compared to double tap, or ever better, roll twisting).

If you tap kite and not strafe kite, your wrists are safe too.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya'll are weird. Change hotkeys to F keys. Use 1-8 for spells. You don't need to have some weird hotbar setup.

Also, Hazek is full of crap, don't listen to him. He advocates ninja looting and thinks (incorrectly) that CHA helps with fizzles (they don't).

You only need 3 real hotkeys as bard, for bag + MH/secondary to swap.

Stopsong macro is ass and any decent bard shouldn't use it. It wastes valuable time in twisting and your 4/5th song will always fall off if you use macro (as compared to double tap, or ever better, roll twisting).

If you tap kite and not strafe kite, your wrists are safe too.

1. Lol using the "F" keys is just as dumb as taking your hand off the mouse to use the Home key as a bind.

2. Looting from a corpse that's gone public isn't ninja looting, that's the whole point of the timer to begin with. And the tooltip when creating a bard says that CHA affects missed notes. Its also besides the fact that it helps with lull, mez and charm.

3. That's action slots, not hotkeys. What do you mean "bag". You equip your bag or something lol wtf? And you need all 6 slots to use every instrument.

4. You're confusing stopsong with melody. /stopsong is put in macros so you can press the ability once instead of twice and does nothing but aid in twisting since its one less keystroke.


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