Troll SK

[Vormotus]

Originally Posted by ajdes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well I started my journey through hell. got level 2, some cloth armor, and a few bags.

fwiw I put 15 points in INT and 5 points in DEX. I dug through some old posts which highlighted that dex is fairly important for lifetap procs and relatively low compared to str/sta on a troll. The INT is self explanatory, as I do plan to solo a bit.

Interesting info, I was tempted to be a SK as well, but was wondering about they xp penalty, have seen the struggle in Guk in one of my alts by hybrids to keep up with friends.

I was wondering if the xp penalty will be removed eventually in green?

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Vormotus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting info, I was tempted to be a SK as well, but was wondering about they xp penalty, have seen the struggle in Guk in one of my alts by hybrids to keep up with friends.

I was wondering if the xp penalty will be removed eventually in green?

I took a troll SK (with guise) to 60 during Kunark era. Listen to me when I say this: the ONLY way you can reach level 60 as a troll SK during pre-Velious is with Chardok AE. So, long story short: level from 55-60 in a Chardok AE group only. Drop 100-150k total to achieve this. If you try to level your troll SK the regular way it will take YEARS. It's that bad man.

Moral of the story: Chardok AE was INSANE EXP, lol.

[cd288]

IMO, they aren't really any better in classic than they are later. Some might even argue they are less useful in the classic era because of the ability other melee classes have to be decent enough tanks throughout most of the pre-50 level ranges, meaning that it's probably better to take one of those classes than a Troll SK. But if you're talking SK with no racial penalty vs. a Pally or a Ranger, such that it's the same penalty regardless, I'd rather have an SK over either of those. But if it's an SK with an additional racial penalty, I'd rather have the Pally or the Ranger (or a Monk or Shaman).

[Brut]

Originally Posted by ajdes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is there any reward to this endeavor? How good are SK's in classic?

Fashion? Class has Feign Death, regular invisibility and invisibility vs undead, so you have some ability to run around the world and go places, unlike pallies and warriors.

Hybrids are all bad all the way throughout the classic trilogy, every role they try to accomplish is performed by other classes better. Warriors will always be the best tanks, monks/rogues will outDPS you hard, monks are way better pullers, int/wis casters are way better at soloing, so forth so forth. You can write novels how your ranger can do this and that in a group environment, but by the end of the day you're not really filling a role a better class can't fill better. Snap aggro, that's about it. Your peak usefulness is probably right now, when warriors struggle to hold aggro without (and even with, har har) aggro proc weapons.

There's no "reward" per say. But I don't think the exp penalty is that horrifying, unless you really count every single mob slain and time invested grinding on a class with no penalty, you shouldn't be able to tell how much harder it is.

[drackgon]

Lol ok Brut let me tell you.. 31 Orge SK Vin on Green. at 26 In MM farming with a group. I was half way to 27.. Same group druid was 2 bars from 27. By time I hit 27, druid was 2 bars from 28 By time I was 1 yellow in 27, Druid was 28 with a yellow in already.

Another note, peeps probably see my name. I play a lot. I've grouped with tons and tons of players, who I /friend good ones and watch their progress. I constantly find a same level group and start leveling with them 1-2 levels. Day later, their 3-5 lvls above me. Its the struggle of SK.

Do I regret it.. Heck no Mama Vin Smash da faces in. <3 I died once to train.

*Edit" Druid was Puller in MM and died 3x ^-^

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fashion? Class has Feign Death, regular invisibility and invisibility vs undead, so you have some ability to run around the world and go places, unlike pallies and warriors.

Hybrids are all bad all the way throughout the classic trilogy, every role they try to accomplish is performed by other classes better. Warriors will always be the best tanks, monks/rogues will outDPS you hard, monks are way better pullers, int/wis casters are way better at soloing, so forth so forth. You can write novels how your ranger can do this and that in a group environment, but by the end of the day you're not really filling a role a better class can't fill better. Snap aggro, that's about it. Your peak usefulness is probably right now, when warriors struggle to hold aggro without (and even with, har har) aggro proc weapons.

There's no "reward" per say. But I don't think the exp penalty is that horrifying, unless you really count every single mob slain and time invested grinding on a class with no penalty, you shouldn't be able to tell how much harder it is.

*Warriors will always be the best tanks for group content if very well geared. If the Warrior isn't geared, then an SK or Pally will always be the better of the pure tank classes for group content.

[sentinel]

Warrior is great for raids only. I'll take a hybrid for exp groups every time.

[Lulz Sect]

CT speed lad

[ajdes]

Originally Posted by Vormotus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting info, I was tempted to be a SK as well, but was wondering about they xp penalty, have seen the struggle in Guk in one of my alts by hybrids to keep up with friends.

I was wondering if the xp penalty will be removed eventually in green?

It gets removed during Velious

[Vormotus]

Originally Posted by ajdes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It gets removed during Velious

That is a relief then ... guess I will shelve my SK dreams for a while, specially because I enjoy playing Iksar Sks.

I never got my epic on live but I got my Iksar SK Epic when I managed to finish my Greenmist.

Worst part of my camp was the green shard in Chardok , took me literally one month+ of parking a druid alt at entrance invised with track up all the time to spot the alchemist being up and then going down with friends or rarely alone to try get it .

Other pieces were just a couple weeks plus organizing my small guild back in the day so they could help me with the overthere invasion part, Everquest is full of little awesome quests like those.

Fun times ...

I think one of the most fun aspects of this game is that strange feeling of camping something for so long.

But that XP penalty is brutal when looked at that way.