No clarity for enchanters on green

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been trying to track down the exact date it was added.

Best I've seen so far is:


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.games.everquest/clarity$201999%7Csort:date/alt.games.everquest/lLO0lMgcDZM/lDn4QN7hyEcJ


About 3 months after release.


"From: "J.M. Capozzi" <cro...@gte.net>
The mana using song (And that's the one I refered to a while back) was
planned on being an AOE Direct Damage song, doing 400 damage to up to four
targets.
The catch was, it used almost all the mana a typical bard of that level
(42+) would have. Since bards don't get meditate, even with Clarity it
would take a long while before the bard was able to sing that song again.
Essentially, it's not a song, it's a spell, in the conventional sense.
Why this restriction? Bards are not meant to be nukers. This is a last
ditch, use it when the chips are down, make or break, type of song. At that
level range, 400 damage isn't a whole lot, any caster worth his salt can do
that with a quarter bar of mana. This is a way to give a bard some higher
level punch, without drastically changing the face of the class."

Where in that resource do you see that Clarity wasn't in until X months after release? The only reference to Clarity in the messages is that once instance above where they say even with Clarity it would take a long time for a Bard to get its mana back because they don't have meditate. Nothing in there that I can see that talks about when Clarity was or wasn't in the game.

[Dolalin]

This guy dumped the spdat.eff on 5/20/99 and it did not have Clarity in it:

5/20/99

Just for fun (boy, I must have been bored!) I went thru the spdat.eff file,
and cleaned out everything but the spell names themselves. Here's the full
(current) list of spells, and spell effects, like animal poisons, rabies, GM
special spells, Guide spells, etc.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....M/_TlZwHwFjh4J

Then this guy mentions clarity on 6/4/99, so it must have been added in a patch between these two dates:

6/4/99

...

5) Enchanters are great. Clarity Rocks. Some fun spells too, I love em.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....I/IPW-lS221d0J

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy dumped the spdat.eff on 5/20/99 and it did not have Clarity in it:



https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....M/_TlZwHwFjh4J

Then this guy mentions clarity on 6/4/99, so it must have been added in a patch between these two dates:



https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....I/IPW-lS221d0J

I definitely remember having Clarity before May 20, 1999. Whether it was added before then or in on day 1, I can't personally confirm since it of course took me a little bit to hit 29 (there's also that other comment on Allakhazam that says it was in from day 1). I don't think one person's spell dump is really that relevant...who knows if they accidentally deleted Clarity from their list while clearing out the extra stuff in the spell file etc. etc. etc. Plus you have the Bard level 32 Clarity song in there, so Clarity was clearly a concept at the time.

[DMN]

looking like it was the may 24 patch. Seems the right time frame and that patch had a ton of spell updates/changes.

That eqlizer site didn't update the enchanter animations until late 2000 for some reason.

[Dolalin]

Got it. They're talking about Clarity here with this, there's nothing else this spell could be:

5/25/99

One REALLY positive thing I read about (also undocumented) is the
addition of a spell for level 30+ Enchanters, that is a group spell
that increases the mana recharge rate by 50%. This, if its true fixes
a big hole in the Enchanters toolbelt since most of our group oriented
spells are aimed at improving tanks, as opposed to helping casters.
Still just rumors at this stage but I am definitely more positive now
then I was this weekend.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...E/4cq1-QqW6hEJ

Looking like that May 24 patch is the one.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Got it. They're talking about Clarity here with this, there's nothing else this spell could be:



https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...E/4cq1-QqW6hEJ

Looking like that May 24 patch is the one.

I don't think that's Clarity at all. Clarity is a level 29 spell not a 30+ spell. It also doesn't increase it by 50%. You're extrapolating random internet comments from 20 years ago. Unless it says something like "hey how excited are you guys that Clarity was added in this patch!?" then it's not proof of anything.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think that's Clarity at all. Clarity is a level 29 spell not a 30+ spell. It also doesn't increase it by 50%. You're extrapolating random internet comments from 20 years ago. Unless it says something like "hey how excited are you guys that Clarity was added in this patch!?" then it's not proof of anything.

It will if you cast it on a low level character via a higher level enchanter.

29 versus 30 is certainly hair splitting.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It will if you cast it on a low level character via a higher level enchanter.

29 versus 30 is certainly hair splitting.

Except it's not hair splitting when we are talking about making changes to a game and the staff have asked for actual proof of things in order to justify a change. If internet comments from the classic era from random players are the standard of proof, then the only comment we have so far that is actually directly about Clarity is the one from Allakhazam where a player a couple years after release says that Clarity was in one day 1.

[Foggen]

A little digging on the wayback machine. Note this page is from March 2000, the comments however are not dated.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000302...sp?SpellID=103

Everyones BEST friend - Teardeel
Well it was bound to happen to enchanters ... wizards get "ummm can you portal me to Karana?" Clerics get "ahhh can you ressurect my friend?" druids get "errr can you cast SoW on me?" ... and now its our turn : "CAN ANYONE CAST CLARITY??" then the the /tell: "hi, can you cast clarity on me?" Well it took 29 levels, but finally we are as harassed as the rest of them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Clarity is indespensible for...

https://web.archive.org/web/20000609...lID=103&Page=2

Now they know - Ralyn Silmarils
For the last 3000 game years, people have wondered the importance of an Enchanter. Now we are going to give it to them. At lvl 29, I never stopped receiving tells as soon as I did my first and only /auction Casting clarity!. People...

[Varlos]

This whole thread is just people wanting classic re-balanced so Enchanters aren't so dominant.

Enchanters had Clarity Day 1 of release.

Note: I started playing in Kunark and I'm playing Enchanter.