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Old 09-15-2019, 08:56 AM
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Troll SK is the worst in classic right?
Then Iksar SK in kunark?
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:31 AM
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Troll SK is the worst in classic right?
Then Iksar SK in kunark?
The two are the same. Troll/Iksar both get the highest (20%) racial penalty because they have the "best" (by classic standards) racial power: regeneration. The Iksar's AC bonus (vs. the Troll) is "balanced" by the Iksar's inability to wear plate (... until Velious).
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Old 09-15-2019, 03:18 PM
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Danth I didn't mean to be argumentative and appreciate you laying out those original penalties so succinctly. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I was just giving my personal take which is completely unsupported by anything other than speculation and conjecture.
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Old 09-15-2019, 03:23 PM
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Danth I didn't mean to be argumentative and appreciate you laying out those original penalties so succinctly. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I was just giving my personal take which is completely unsupported by anything other than speculation and conjecture.
Oh, don't be apologizing or anything, if I came across as aggressive or something you have my own "my bad, that's not how I meant it." I like forum discussion and seeing the alternate points of view; I only meant my own opinion was based on what I saw in-game and from old-time sources. It's still an opinion with room for different interpretations. As an aside, I liked the tidbits about the D&D mechanics. I never played that....I was too cool for it and was more likely to be making fun of the guys playing tabletop RPG's. Here I am, now, so the joke was on me in the long run.

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Old 09-15-2019, 11:00 PM
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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/edit...rs_letter.html

They had the penalties to balance out what they deemed as the stronger classes.

Logically.. a hybrid would be stronger than their non hybrid counterpart. In practice, that wasnt the case.. and they realized the game ends up balancing at the end game not the leveling game, so they removed class penalty.

Race penalty was there because of race superiority.

Shared pain was there so a group of friends didn't end up out leveling their troll sk tank friend.

TBH this is one of those vanilla things that shouldn't exist for the same reasons they eventually removed it.

The shared penalty more than anything, people refuse to invite hybrids to groups when there are other choices.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:44 AM
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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/edit...rs_letter.html

They had the penalties to balance out what they deemed as the stronger classes.

Logically.. a hybrid would be stronger than their non hybrid counterpart. In practice, that wasnt the case.. and they realized the game ends up balancing at the end game not the leveling game, so they removed class penalty.

Race penalty was there because of race superiority.

Shared pain was there so a group of friends didn't end up out leveling their troll sk tank friend.

TBH this is one of those vanilla things that shouldn't exist for the same reasons they eventually removed it.

The shared penalty more than anything, people refuse to invite hybrids to groups when there are other choices.
That was an interesting read.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:09 AM
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All the pet exp penalities should be removed so necros and mages and all other pet classes don't have to kill their pets to get full exp.

Makes sense since they're going to have to look at spell book to meditate.
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