Failed Thurgadin MQ help

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Indecisive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I just spoke to a Guide and they informed me there's nothing they'll do. I was kind of surprised they won't even kill the NPC to reset him so it won't happen to another player, but it is what it is I guess.

I probably should have taken a screenshot, but I don't even remember the name of the monk at this point. All I remember is what guild he was in. I was so shocked and numb from seeing almost half my bank account disappear into nothing that everything else kind of faded away.

How did you get over the MQ failure? I feel so sick about it I don't even know if I want to play anymore.

A month ago, a guy came on forums whining about accidentally handing a guard 50,000p (the entirety of his dial a port druid savings).

A week later he updated the thread saying "Shrug im over it"

[mumpz]

Originally Posted by Indecisive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How did you get over the MQ failure? I feel so sick about it I don't even know if I want to play anymore.

I was on the purchasing end, so it wasn't a loss on my end.

When I get really frustrated by any game, i'll distance myself focus on something else for a bit, and if i really love the game, i usually come back.

[Keza]

Originally Posted by Indecisive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How did you get over the MQ failure? I feel so sick about it I don't even know if I want to play anymore.

I did two MQs for the robe of the tomato or w/e using raster idols for my alt (first) and a friend's alt (second) both of which were eaten because it wasn't even coded yet. This was firstly pre-kunark and secondly post-kunark but before it was coded.. if it ever even was, I don't know.

It's painful but if you still enjoy the game then you'll still play it even if you get screwed. It's not like that's the first time EQ has screwed you and it likely won't be the last. That didn't result in me quitting p99, even though I eventually did. Now I'm playing the ffxi emu (since modern mmos are dogshit braindead single player games) and other games in general. If green ever happens I'll come back to p99.

Funnily enough druids are an unwanted class that no one cares about so making one your main is basically a total waste of time and spending your money gearing one out was a waste to begin with.

[Indecisive]

Originally Posted by Keza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funnily enough druids are an unwanted class that no one cares about so making one your main is basically a total waste of time and spending your money gearing one out was a waste to begin with.

I really appreciated your post until this part. It wasn't helpful or constructive, and I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to add it in.

Druids are a lot of fun. I care about that far more than being the best min-max choice at end-game.

[bigjeff100]

Originally Posted by Indecisive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really appreciated your post until this part. It wasn't helpful or constructive, and I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to add it in.

Druids are a lot of fun. I care about that far more than being the best min-max choice at end-game.

Disregard Keza, fuck'him [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hang in there man, don't lose interest! My main is a 60 druid, and i'd love to help you get back on your feet!! I can donate some bucks to get ya up and running again man! I know that's gotta deflate ya a bit.

I'm actually in Asgard too. Let me know if you are having issues trying to resolve this and i'll see if i can help investigate!

I remember when i did my first MQ for Thurg gear i went through the same feelings.. It's friggin stressful haha! Just keep in mind going forward to push all risks off on the seller, and make it known.. Payment after pixels..

Holler at me anytime man! I only play a few hours a week, which is spent mostly just helping people.. So holler any time!! At least for POTG! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Optti]

Originally Posted by Indecisive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't even know if I want to play anymore.

can't get out that easy lol

[Bbeta]

Originally Posted by Indecisive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was kind of surprised they won't even kill the NPC to reset him so it won't happen to another player, but it is what it is I guess.

Killing the mob will have no affect on the NPC's quest tables / turn in tables. Also resetting the NPC will have no affect on the NPC's quest/turn in tables. This is because all NPC's loot tables are server / zone side. This was implemented during the Eatherquake sim pops.

So in order to fix a mob eating peoples MQ's the zone needs to be completely reset. Hence the reason guides and most GM's can do nothing to help.

Long story short, this was implemented to stop peoples quests from failing due to SIM Repops. If you are turning in a quest item one at a time and a repop happens in the middle of your quest, the NPC would eat your items. so to put a bandaid on this, they bascially found its better to screw over MQ's over all than to be responsible for an individuals failed turn in during a simulated repop.



****THIS IS BASED ON AN EDUCATED GUESS**** *DO NOT QUOTE*

[Indecisive]

Originally Posted by bigjeff100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still no luck seeing this guy on my end!! I'm still here pushin for ya bud!! I'll keep my peepers peeled!

Thanks again, man!

Originally Posted by Bbeta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Killing the mob will have no affect on the NPC's quest tables / turn in tables. Also resetting the NPC will have no affect on the NPC's quest/turn in tables. This is because all NPC's loot tables are server / zone side. This was implemented during the Eatherquake sim pops.

So in order to fix a mob eating peoples MQ's the zone needs to be completely reset. Hence the reason guides and most GM's can do nothing to help.

Long story short, this was implemented to stop peoples quests from failing due to SIM Repops. If you are turning in a quest item one at a time and a repop happens in the middle of your quest, the NPC would eat your items. so to put a bandaid on this, they bascially found its better to screw over MQ's over all than to be responsible for an individuals failed turn in during a simulated repop.



****THIS IS BASED ON AN EDUCATED GUESS**** *DO NOT QUOTE*

Yeah, some other community members brought up that the mobs can't be killed anymore to reset loot tables earlier in the thread, but this is the first time I've seen an explanation behind it. Makes sense, just kind of a bummer for situations like this.

[bigjeff100]

The person selling the MQ should be responsible for all these checks.. faction, items.. All of it.. And you shouldn't pay the seller until you receive the item.. It's his risk to take, at the end of the day, all you shoulda lost was your gems..

Again- Maybe check with seller if he's willing to refund or at least refund half of the payment.. If you truly think you got scammed.. It's time to name and shame!!!!!!!

[Indecisive]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If some third party deliberately messed up the quest NPC, then when your monk associate handed in his piece he would have got the reward. You can decide whether or not you know him well enough to determine whether he would have told you if that happened, or let you blindly continue.

Other, probably more likely case is that the other person turning in the item lacked sufficient faction. When that happens, the NPC simply eats his item, and now that NPC has your gems on it and is going mess up the next turn-in should the next turn-in be an MQ attempt. A non-MQ, direct turn-in should still work in that the person doing will still receive his armor piece.

EDIT: Of course there's also the possibility of a straight-up scam where the other player never had the item in the first place (or, at least, never turned it in). That being said, thurg-armor scams are exceedingly rare since few people want to risk GM action over the relatively small gains to be made.

Absolutely all of the Thurgadin quest NPCs have associated dialogue.

Danth

I don't know him at all - but his guild, from my understanding, has a good reputation. I want to be very careful that I don't cast any aspersions his way without evidence, because it wouldn't be fair. As upset as I am about this whole thing, I don't know if he did anything wrong or if I was just incredibly unlucky.

I did ask the guide I spoke to if there was any way they could tell me what had happened, but they stopped responding, so I just let it go.

Originally Posted by bigjeff100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The person selling the MQ should be responsible for all these checks.. faction, items.. All of it.. And you shouldn't pay the seller until you receive the item.. It's his risk to take, at the end of the day, all you shoulda lost was your gems..

Again- Maybe check with seller if he's willing to refund or at least refund half of the payment.. If you truly think you got scammed.. It's time to name and shame!!!!!!!

I don't remember his name, but he was in Asgard. Seemed like a nice enough guy. Although I had no idea about the faction on his end being a problem as other people have pointed out, so if that's the case and he's not factioned up correctly, then I really hope he reaches out and tries to make this right.