Thread about why You Hate Luclin

[Cen]

Nexus and its porting system, and the new character models except for Barbarians and Iksar.


I love Beastlords though and consider that one of the greatest class ideas. Maybe just not at the expansion outset the way the pets worked before fixed to be like mages and necros. I think Paldulal Caverns and the bazaar are cool.

I'm indifferent to Vah Shir.

[Bergen]

I hated the zone design, was meh about the model updates, but I loved BSTs.

Had fond memories of the early BST days... the warder was an Ability that you summoned and then Buffed to appropriate level. We figured out quick that you could get the Befriend Animal drop from LFay and use it to charm random animals, buff them insanely, and then leave/reenter a zone to watch the carnage the now massively overpowered pet would wreak on unsuspecting people.

Oh, and I guess Pet Clericing... casting the buff spell on the pet would CH it in the beginning.

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm indifferent to Vah Shir.

It's okay, they're indifferent to everyone, too.

[ScaringChildren]

The character models.

They were what made me quit back when Luclin came out.

[Saludeen]

I actually liked Luclin although I wasn't a fan of the "trogdolite alien atmosphere" as much as typical fantasy zones. And I couldn't stand EXP while mounted. Its just weird and takes away from playing the character with people sitting on their mounts doing damage. Teleports ruined it too and the world was just too big and turned into instances without the need to travel or connect locations.

[Domisk]

Cats on the moon....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEkkocMJQgM

[DMN]

I actually didn't play during SoL. Still, just say no to furries.

[Balvaron]

I actually like a lot of the Luclin content, what I didn't like is the game breaking mechanical changes. IE the Bazaar which made the economy impersonal, and POK books made the world so much smaller. I actually wish there was a version of EQ where the content from the new worlds is there, but these features are disabled.

[Evia]

Luclin hinted to the end of eq with its quality of life "improvements" beginning to emerge. Planes of Power sealed the deal tho.


Big cons of luclin:
-took me out of a tolkein style fantasy land and into SPACE! (Wait, come again?)
-introduced CATMAN! Uh from SPACE! (Is this still the same game?)
-teleporting begins with spires (and one step closer to teleport books)
-bazaar. While i agree convenient as hell, destroyed the player interaction bartering which was a big part of the game.
-new models and animations were ALL terrible! Someone in this thread said they "weren't all bad" yes I'm sorry they were. Spell casting, sitting, standing, swinging weapons and even just running looked strange and clunky.
-luclin ushered the start of making old content obsolete. Classic-velious had balance and luclin started to ruin that. An example is paludal caverns destroying any other previous leveling zone 1-24.

Pros of luclin:
-shared bank begins i think?
-beastlords
-ssra temple was kinda fun?
-alternate advancement making classes like the Ranger finally complete.

[Korrano]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin hinted to the end of eq with its quality of life "improvements" beginning to emerge. Planes of Power sealed the deal tho.


Big cons of luclin:
-took me out of a tolkein style fantasy land and into SPACE! (Wait, come again?)
-introduced CATMAN! Uh from SPACE! (Is this still the same game?)
-teleporting begins with spires (and one step closer to teleport books)
-bazaar. While i agree convenient as hell, destroyed the player interaction bartering which was a big part of the game.
-new models and animations were ALL terrible! Someone in this thread said they "weren't all bad" yes I'm sorry they were. Spell casting, sitting, standing, swinging weapons and even just running looked strange and clunky.
-luclin ushered the start of making old content obsolete. Classic-velious had balance and luclin started to ruin that. An example is paludal caverns destroying any other previous leveling zone 1-24.

Pros of luclin:
-shared bank begins i think?
-beastlords
-ssra temple was kinda fun?
-alternate advancement making classes like the Ranger finally complete.

Bazaar made some interesting stuff beside the killing the whole immersive trading in EC, but yeah that could begone. They shouldn't have even added spires it just made wizards and droods a bit obsolete, that being said. Looking at some of the old zones and how popular the game was back at the time, I think they were trying to alleviate the crowded zones with more newer zones that can compete to stop the clutter but given how nice some of the zones were an how Brutal the other zones were in comparison was just very rough.

I felt like the newest addition to content they pushed it made it a bit easier to maintain mana and other stuff as well with a whole new slew of twink gear and such.

[Clazxiss]

I notice many people listing the negative aspects of SoL being about the AA and past content being rendered obsolete. This was not true.

What I liked about SoL was the ability to explore and experience zones that were normally on lockdown for loot. Those "obsolete" zones people complain about were not left barren. On my original server the top guilds created the same bottleneck of content that many people see on P99. Their pattern was this, lock down every raid boss in the current expansion plus the top mobs in the previous expansion. SoL offered enough raid mobs though that the intermediate guilds were able to swipe a few kills. It was fun to finally raid Nagafen, Vox, PoH, PoF without having to poop sock.

Originally Posted by Korrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bazaar made some interesting stuff beside the killing the whole immersive trading in EC, but yeah that could begone. They shouldn't have even added spires it just made wizards and droods a bit obsolete, that being said. Looking at some of the old zones and how popular the game was back at the time, I think they were trying to alleviate the crowded zones with more newer zones that can compete to stop the clutter but given how nice some of the zones were an how Brutal the other zones were in comparison was just very rough.

I felt like the newest addition to content they pushed it made it a bit easier to maintain mana and other stuff as well with a whole new slew of twink gear and such.

So many people are wearing their L33t gamer nostalgia goggles and you hit the nail on the head. At the time SoL was released, certain servers were way too populated to function well. I remember running into EC before SoL and just lagging out due to the sheer amount of people occupying the zone. There were times I had to aim my view in first person and stare at the ground to avoid the graphical lag from so many bodies. EQ is not WoW with the way its graphics and processor programming functioned. The game did demand that you not play on a potato if you wanted to raid or go into popular dungeons.

Friendly reminder to everyone. Many of you were playing EQ on a machine using Win 95 or XP! When SoL released, the clutter you found in the popular zones died down enough for those of without gaming rigs to enjoy and explore with friends.