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08-07-2018, 02:39 AM
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Social loafing is a thing. But I think there is more to it than that.
What roll do you play? What is your equipment? Where do you solo? Where do you group? To really know what's happening we need to know that. The number 1 thing I find in groups is the puller spends too long in camp fighting instead of running off to pull the next group of mobs. The group needs to be kept on its toes. Don't be scared of disciplining and kicking repeat offenders that don't pay enough attention. Also Spyder isn't completely full of shit; grouping is harder than soloing as it requires broader class knowledge, communication and teamwork. | ||
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#2
08-07-2018, 08:28 AM
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The only good group I ever had was in FV, we had 2 Druids pulling with non stop mobs in the camp at all times. This is because 99.9% of the time the camps in this game don’t provide enough mobs to make big groups worthwhile. It’s actually a shame more full groups don’t form in dense zones with completely uncontested mobs(Kerra Isle, Cazic Thule, Nurga/Droga, Dalnir, etc.)
But generally speaking If you want to get great xp while still being social, don’t do anything more than a duo or trio. And then you get to laugh if you end up in an overcrowded zone when you get rude gestures from people who are butthurt because you didn’t invite them in your trio | ||
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#3
08-08-2018, 03:56 PM
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I started EQ about 1 month after it originally launched- first character was a rogue Barbarian who lost his body several times in the white maze of Everfrost to teleporting polar cubs and warping ice goblins (unstable servers and dial up connection). I also remember my 2nd character a wood elf bard that I stereotypically walked off the edge of Kelethin within 1 minute of entering the world.
Yeah pathing sucked in the original game and every expansion brought its own special bugs but P1999 has had its up and downs with the same issues for better and worse. Can’t argue with the increased stability that modern internet infrastructure and broadband connections has brought us. | ||
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#4
08-08-2018, 04:27 PM
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Factors are going to play into this as well. Are you guys living off the land? Do you have 10k worth of gear? More or less? What classes are in this group? Are mobs constantly being pulled in or are you spending alot of time looking for pulls?
If you all are wearing banded, fine steel weapons, and are comprised of 2 bards, 1 druid, 1 cleric, 1 Shaman and a Tank. This can affect your experience. We just don't know. Here's my example of a group last night. Me: 30 Monk (Hell Level) Ada club/SoS/Fungi etc. 29 Druid, zero gear. 29 Mage, Zero gear. 29 Rogue, 1k worth of gear. I was getting about 40% exp in a hell level per hour in Sol A. Mind you, I was hunting for pulls quite a bit as the zone was packed and there was 2 60's PLing another toon. | ||
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#5
08-08-2018, 06:00 PM
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Am I missing something/doing something wrong? I don't think I have ever gotten close to that fast exp. PM please and send advice. | |||
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#6
08-09-2018, 02:57 AM
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When you are soloing, there are minor inefficiencies that pop up. E.g. medding at fm because you are tabbed out and watching midget porn, waiting for mobs, running around finding mobs, not casting the right spell at the right time etc. Well, when you get a bunch of people together, these issues start conflating and compounding (one inefficiency causes another causes another and so forth). It's just inevitable. A duo is at the point where specialization benefits more than these inefficiencies penalize, but it is rarely true for a full group. Also if you have some classes like wizard or most druids it is essentially welfare. They cant pull their own weight so you are basically subsidizing their exp gain. It is the same with gear and twinks. | |||
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#7
08-08-2018, 05:53 PM
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LDoN were great for level-grinding. (and fun, more challenging)
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#10
08-13-2018, 08:22 PM
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XP too slow?
Try red99, brother - The exp is natively faster than blue, you get an additional bonus for each member in group, meaning you can even leech exp afk sometimes and people won't mind as long as you aren't known for making a habit of it. Also, camps are open for the taking - there are no waitlists, and with red's pop being as low as it is (owing to summer and the active Rise of Zek server pulling some players out) there's hardly even any pvp to interfere.
Lastly, and most importantly - Red needs people. The horror stories about griefers and snobby über guilds are dated - it used to be more like that, though never to the level of the worst nightmares of Blue's rumor mill, but now griefing is really rare, and the raiding guild will accept pretty much anyone that makes it to the required level and isn't a big douche. Raiding on red is healthy, everything in Velious other than Tunare and AoW dies with regularity, and Kunark raids related to epics or specifically prized items (AoN for instance, which for various reasons is excellent in pvp.) There are certainly some unique challenges on Red, and if you play, even though it's not like some may have you believe - you will get pvp'd at some point, you will get griefed at some point, and you have to be prepared for that. Some things in the game work differently on red as well, so there's always a bit of a learning experience (for instance, duck doesn't interrupt casts, you have to wait the entire cast bar - but you can sit and med mid-cast and stand up at the last to complete the spell) but overall it's much the same as blue, with some additional challenges and some additional perqs, and with not enough people instead of way too many. Give it some consideration, and if you do elect to come over - bring your friends! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] - Servant - 60 CLR- Red99 | ||
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